Catch up AI?

[jkra0512]

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There might be a hint of it because I've had games where I'll take a lead into the ninth and I'll bring in my closer where all of the sudden these guys, who I've been dominating all game, can now hit pitches three feet off the plate. Or they will pull a low outside fastball out of the park.

It's definitely present in some games I play. They just happen to get JUST ENOUGH runs to either tie the game or take the lead and then they turn the switch off and go back to not being able to hit.

[StLfan72]

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Why does every thread turn into a MLB 2k9 sucks and the Show is so much better thread. If you don't like the game STOP PLAYING IT and move on. I understand that some people are upset with the game okay I get it, it is your right to not like something and be upset but, it is just becoming too much.

Anyway back to the question, I have seen a little comeback mode even in close games. The last two games I have been up by 2 going into the 8th inning and boom tie game. It could be me keeping my starter in too long and fatigue takes effect.

Exactly. I don't buy that there is a 'catch-up' situation in this game. Chris Perez has only blown 1 save for me and that was MY fault for not making the right pitch. I have not noticed this at all and I've only lost 5 games out of 18. I think some of you guys are rushing your pitches, trying to just get the game over with or something. If you stay consistent in hitting your spots and as long as you're using a good pitcher, then you guys won't be losing these games.

[Cardot]

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I'm sorry - this is the single most absurd myth in all of sports gaming.

So do you believe that NFL Blitz had catch up AI? Or games where Catch Up AI is actually an option?

[Eddie1967]

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So just because the AI comes back in a few games there is a comeback logic. It seems people are always looking for something. There is a huge thread in that other games forum about this very thing and I'm amazed at how many people think this. Don't comebacks happen in "real life"? Speaking of that this is a video game so it won't be perfect but I have never had a problem with a comeback AI in any way. How on earth can you prove that after playing just a few games. Please tell me............

[StLfan72]

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Exactly. I don't buy that there is a 'catch-up' situation in this game. Chris Perez has only blown 1 save for me and that was MY fault for not making the right pitch. I have not noticed this at all and I've only lost 5 games out of 18. I think some of you guys are rushing your pitches, trying to just get the game over with or something. If you stay consistent in hitting your spots and as long as you're using a good pitcher, then you guys won't be losing these games.

I want to come back and clarify the above comments--I don't think that the people complaining about 'catch-up AI' are lying, necessarily--I guess I just never really noticed it.

HOWEVER, I did just have a scare in the last game I played. I'm up 6-2 on the Cubs going into the 8th inning with Jason Motte pitching and Fukudome hits the 2nd pitch into right field for a single. Derrek Lee takes a 5 pitch walk (gotta be careful with that guy) so I'm starting to sweat a little because the Cub lineup doesn't get any easier. Motte coaxes Aramis Ramirez to hit into a double play and then Milton Bradley lined out to left after a very tough 7 pitch at-bat.

I hit a dinger in the top of the 9th with Colby Rasmus and then my next 3 guys went down in order. So the game was 7-2 going into the bottom of the ninth. It's not a save situation, so I bring in Ryan Franklin-who immediately gets a ground ball out to SS from Aaron Miles; Soto got on with a single to left, Gathright flied out on a pop-fly to Ankiel in LF and then up comes Theriot (who I haven't been able to get out all game, accounting for 3 of the Cubs' 6 hits). I got Chris Perez up in the 'pen because the next 3 batters are tough outs. Unbelievably, I struck Theriot out in 5 pitches with Ryan Franklin to end the game!

I guess, I'm just trying to illustrate that of all games for the AI to 'come back' on, this one might have been a candidate because a) I'm using a somewhat shaky pitcher (4.65 ERA so far in my season) in Ryan Franklin, b) this is a tough Chicago Cubs team, and c) I had a 5 run lead.

[stlstudios189]

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It ties into a few things the opponent you are playing against, the fatigue of your pitcher, the composure rating etc... I have to think that a few comebacks will happen over the course of a 100+ game season. I have been down by five and ended up scoring 4 runs in the 8th and almost scored in the 9th. If I can do it they can do it.

[jkra0512]

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So just because the AI comes back in a few games there is a comeback logic. It seems people are always looking for something. There is a huge thread in that other games forum about this very thing and I'm amazed at how many people think this. Don't comebacks happen in "real life"? Speaking of that this is a video game so it won't be perfect but I have never had a problem with a comeback AI in any way. How on earth can you prove that after playing just a few games. Please tell me............

First of all, get over yourself. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've played more than a "few" games and I've seen it, it doesn't matter what team it is. I've had comeback AI happen when I was playing against a weak Royals lineup against Mo.

It's ignorant of you to sit there and think we, who believe there is Comeback AI are totally wrong. I know there are comebacks in real life we aren't ******s. But, it just seems like the CPU gets just enough runs at the right moment, more times than not.

Second of all, I like your avatar. Archangel should have a more prominent role in the upcoming X-Men movies! Damn Marvel needs to get their act together.

[Eddie1967]

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First of all, get over yourself. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've played more than a "few" games and I've seen it, it doesn't matter what team it is. I've had comeback AI happen when I was playing against a weak Royals lineup against Mo.

It's ignorant of you to sit there and think we, who believe there is Comeback AI are totally wrong. I know there are comebacks in real life we aren't ******s. But, it just seems like the CPU gets just enough runs at the right moment, more times than not.

Second of all, I like your avatar. Archangel should have a more prominent role in the upcoming X-Men movies! Damn Marvel needs to get their act together.

LOL, Point taken. I still don't believe it exists but hey that's just me. I have never believed this existed in any games that I have played. Yeah it's a shame they don't tell more about Archangel, his character should have his own movie.

[jkra0512]

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LOL, Point taken. I still don't believe it exists but hey that's just me. I have never believed this existed in any games that I have played. Yeah it's a shame they don't tell more about Archangel, his character should have his own movie.

I'm glad you have a sense of humor Eddie! We are on opposite sides of the spectrum and I understand some people might not experience it or feel like they do. But for me, I see it ALL the time and I can't stand it. I still love the game but it frustrates me to no end sometimes.

[Eddie1967]

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I'm glad you have a sense of humor Eddie! We are on opposite sides of the spectrum and I understand some people might not experience it or feel like they do. But for me, I see it ALL the time and I can't stand it. I still love the game but it frustrates me to no end sometimes.

I understand, I don't have the throw to first base glitch either that many are seeing but it's been confirmed that it's in the game I believe. The game definitely does have flaws besides being boring as hell. I'm not sure what it is, but it just doesn't hold my attention like 2k8 did. The game just doesn't seem to have a personality.

[Padgoi]

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Just another ridiculous topic comparing The Show to 2K9.

Let me add my 2 cents:

1. Anyone who complains about the Catch-Up AI in 2K9 and then says The Show is the best game ever is ridiculous and either hasn't read the COUNTLESS complaint topics in the other forum about Catch Up Logic in THAT game or just ignored them. If 2K9 has ONE thing over The Show, it's that there is no Catch Up Logic, or at least not that I've seen.

[jake44np]

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First of all, get over yourself. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've played more than a "few" games and I've seen it, it doesn't matter what team it is. I've had comeback AI happen when I was playing against a weak Royals lineup against Mo.

It's ignorant of you to sit there and think we, who believe there is Comeback AI are totally wrong. I know there are comebacks in real life we aren't ******s. But, it just seems like the CPU gets just enough runs at the right moment, more times than not.

Second of all, I like your avatar. Archangel should have a more prominent role in the upcoming X-Men movies! Damn Marvel needs to get their act together.

So let me get this straight it is ignorant for us not to believe that there is a catch up logic when we have not seen it at all!!??? I have played over 100 games and have not seen any catch up logic at all.
So we are ignorant because we dont have the same view as you when it comes to this "catch up logic"? Maybe you are ignorant to not believe us who dont believe there is a catch up logic.
My point is dont call someone or some group of people ignorant because they dont agree with you because that is the definition of being "ignorant".

[JBH3]

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Throw me in there w/ the ignorant "no catch-up AI" crowd.

Haven't played 100 games, more like 26 or 27, and have yet to see "catch-up" AI.

[Trevytrev11]

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Teams do come back (there is a reason why blown saves exist as a stat). Teams do score 5 or 6 runs and then turn around and give up 5 or 6 runs in the next half inning. Sometimes a pitcher will be unhittable through 7 innings, give up a few hits and get rattled until the wheels fall of and all of a sudden a 6-0 game is now 6-4 with two runners on and no outs.

For the guy with Sabathia, I'll ask you to revisit last year when Sabathia gave up 5, 4, 9 and 9 earned runs in his first four starts of the year and carried a 13.5 ERA into mid April. Sometimes crazy stuff happens. Ace pitchers get ripped every now and then and sometimes a few games in a row.

If it's not happening every time you have a big lead, then it sounds random. And if it happens randomly, then it just sounds like baseball to me.

[jkra0512]

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So let me get this straight it is ignorant for us not to believe that there is a catch up logic when we have not seen it at all!!??? I have played over 100 games and have not seen any catch up logic at all.
So we are ignorant because we dont have the same view as you when it comes to this "catch up logic"? Maybe you are ignorant to not believe us who dont believe there is a catch up logic.
My point is dont call someone or some group of people ignorant because they dont agree with you because that is the definition of being "ignorant".

If you read it right, it's ignorant to think those who have seen are wrong just because you haven't seen it. Make sense?