GETTING FREE AGENCY TO WORK

[Trevytrev11]

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I think the reason that contracts are different is something to do with the MLBPA. Not sure..

Anyway, this is great and I will definitely do it in my franchise once I buy the game.

I think you are right, which is silly because their salaries are publicized in several locations for the world to see, so whats the point of hiding them in the game.

[AmazingMets]

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I think you are right, which is silly because their salaries are publicized in several locations for the world to see, so whats the point of hiding them in the game.

Actually, most of the time the salaries are never publicized by the MLBPA. The terms get out by "sources" but I don't think that they are officially announced.

[JBH3]

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Would all of this go away if they let us edit team budgets? It seems like that would be the easiest fix. Then we could just make an assumption that everyones current payroll was at X% of their Budget.

Here are the top 10 payrolls from last year:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>1.</TD><TD align=left>New York Yankees</TD><TD align=right>$201,449,289</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2.</TD><TD align=left>New York Mets </TD><TD align=right>$135,773,988</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>3.</TD><TD align=left>Chicago Cubs</TD><TD align=right>$135,050,000</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>4.</TD><TD align=left>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$122,696,000</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>5.</TD><TD align=left>Detroit Tigers</TD><TD align=right>$115,085,145</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>6.</TD><TD align=left>Los Angeles Angels</TD><TD align=right>$113,709,000</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>7.</TD><TD align=left>Philadelphia Phillies</TD><TD align=right>$113,004,048</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>8.</TD><TD align=left>Houston Astros </TD><TD align=right>$102,996,415</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>9.</TD><TD align=left>Los Angeles Dodgers</TD><TD align=right>$100,458,101</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>10.</TD><TD align=left>Seattle Mariners</TD><TD align=right>$98,904,167</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Lets assume that these are the same for 2010.

If the Yankees in real life have a $201M, but in the game have a $140M payroll and a $220M budget, then it's obvious that they have room to keep every player they want. However, if we were able to edit their budge to $155M or whatever number that is, then it may mean that don't keep 1 or 2 of those guys every year....and the same would be said for most of the other teams who were close to their budget.

The one thing something like this would do is force us to re-scale salaries.

A-Rods real $27M is now only $19M or something.

And when you see a solid player like Abreau signing for $5M, in reality it's equal to a $7M.

I'm just thinking for patching pursposes, this might be the easiest route to go. Regardless, I hope they are aware of this problem.

Editing the budget, rather than all contracts would be a lot easier. That's why I wouldn't have been upset if the contracts were off so long as the budgets were tightened, but it's like teams have the budget figures listed above and the contracts are half of what the real ones are creatinga huge surplus of available funds.

[Trevytrev11]

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Actually, most of the time the salaries are never publicized by the MLBPA. The terms get out by "sources" but I don't think that they are officially announced.

You may be right, and I'm sure there are terms written to prevent them from being in the game, but it seems silly when anyone can go to espn or cbssportsline and get everyones salary.

And I'm fine with them not being able to use actual salaries, I just wish they kept everything to a scale (or close to it) that would keep this part of the game semi-realistic.

[Bat]

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I noticed this when I simmed a year... a couple players rated like 80. Thats it.

I am not going to edit all the rosters... man this is dumb.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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This issue just screams patch in my opinion.

[AmazingMets]

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You may be right, and I'm sure there are terms written to prevent them from being in the game, but it seems silly when anyone can go to espn or cbssportsline and get everyones salary.

And I'm fine with them not being able to use actual salaries, I just wish they kept everything to a scale (or close to it) that would keep this part of the game semi-realistic.

So, true. But, all sports game companies seem to tred carefully among EVERYTHING because of the lawsuit against EA Sports and the NCAA. Which sucks for us gamers.

[mwjr]

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Would all of this go away if they let us edit team budgets?

...snip...

I don't think so. Not only is there a problem with the budgets, but the players are accepting really low salaries. I'm talking major salary cuts.

[TimLawNYC]

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This issue just screams patch in my opinion.

But it screamed just as loud last year, and not only did they NOT fix it with a patch, they didn't fix it in this year's game either. So either 1) 2K doesn't know about this, 2) the problem simply can't be fixed, or 3) 2K knows about it but doesn't care about fixing it. The first two options seem unlikely to me.

It really is a shame that this issue came back, because it really does ruin franchise.

[puremvp1]

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No reason this should be an issue again......simply put im happy that I rented this year


the way 2k is, Imo it'll probably not only not be patched but remain a problem in 2011

[myghty]

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What gets me is that they work on this all year, probably day in & day out & dont catch it. But 1-2 days into release the consumer finds all kinds of glitches & mishaps... Just weird to me. But its like someone said, they probably dont care & just want to meet the deadline & put out what they have.

[Trevytrev11]

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Well I posted this in Ronnie's patch over at the 2K boards...I suggest everyone else go over and do the same. If they hear it once or twice, they may pass it up. If they hear it 9 or 10 times, they may pay attention...can't hurt.

[BA2929]

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But it screamed just as loud last year, and not only did they NOT fix it with a patch, they didn't fix it in this year's game either. So either 1) 2K doesn't know about this, 2) the problem simply can't be fixed, or 3) 2K knows about it but doesn't care about fixing it. The first two options seem unlikely to me.

It really is a shame that this issue came back, because it really does ruin franchise.

You forgot one possible option: They know about it, but don't have any idea how to fix it. I doubt this will be that big of a deal to me, but I'm sure it'll be annoying not being able to build a team with a key FA.

[JBH3]

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Been editing contracts for the last 3 hours. Did 20 teams in 3 hours...

I edited only MLB-level players. Using the site that Coug gave me (Cot's Baseball Contracts), if a player had any type of option, I added it into the contract. For some guys, like Carlos Silva, who earned $11.5/yr in '10 and in '11, but had a buyout of a few million in the final contract year, I gave the team the buyout.

For higher rated players who had a couple club options at the end of their contract I gave them the club options; since it adds up to less editing in the long run.

Some results from editing contracts...these figures are pre-edit and post-edit "funds available" - viewable from the "Team Needs" menu.

Philly pre-edit budget avl funds=$25.04M
Philly post-edits budget avl funds=$340K

NYM pre-edit budget avl funds=$20.10M
NYM post-edits budget avl funds=$6.7M

CHC pre-edit budget avl funds=$24.53M
CHC post-edits budget avl funds=$3.08M

STL pre-edit budget avl funds=$13.28M
STL post-edits budget avl funds=$276K

TOR pre-edit budget avl funds=$16.47M
TOR post-edits budget avl funds=$3.40M

So as you can see there's quite a difference in the avl of funds after editing contracts to their correct figure.

[Picci]

Re: GETTING FREE AGENCY TO WORK

Been editing contracts for the last 3 hours. Did 20 teams in 3 hours...

I edited only MLB-level players. Using the site that Coug gave me (Cot's Baseball Contracts), if a player had any type of option, I added it into the contract. For some guys, like Carlos Silva, who earned $11.5/yr in '10 and in '11, but had a buyout of a few million in the final contract year, I gave the team the buyout.

For higher rated players who had a couple club options at the end of their contract I gave them the club options; since it adds up to less editing in the long run.

Some results from editing contracts...these figures are pre-edit and post-edit "funds available" - viewable from the "Team Needs" menu.

Philly pre-edit budget avl funds=$25.04M
Philly post-edits budget avl funds=$340K

NYM pre-edit budget avl funds=$20.10M
NYM post-edits budget avl funds=$6.7M

CHC pre-edit budget avl funds=$24.53M
CHC post-edits budget avl funds=$3.08M

STL pre-edit budget avl funds=$13.28M
STL post-edits budget avl funds=$276K

TOR pre-edit budget avl funds=$16.47M
TOR post-edits budget avl funds=$3.40M

So as you can see there's quite a difference in the avl of funds after editing contracts to their correct figure.

Just a heads up......There's confirmation of a roster edit limit again. You may want to review and decide how much further you want to go with the risk of not being able to edit names/stance..etc.