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Re: Dare I ask about the PS2 version...
While I don't have the PS2 version, I can shed a little light on something for you.
While I do love MLB 2k9 (even with its plethora of annoyances/bugs), if you have access to MLB 09:The Show (albeit the ps3 version is lightyears ahead of the ps2 version graphics wise) I would go that route.
I have thought numerous times to grab the show on the ps2 just to see what it's like on the other side. If I didn't already sink the 60 bucks into 2k9 I would be playing the show.
I apologize for not answering the questions you asked, but I just had to get that off my chest -
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bsb,
I was thinking of posting the same question. I am into my HH season, but have been intrigued with 2K9 and was wondering the same thing. The 52 game season and in game saves would be nice since my game time is severely limited. I tried the other 2K's (8, 7, 6) but the CPU generated NO offense on me not matter what.
Helios, I agree with you on The Show - it's a masterpiece.
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The last-gen version of this series was never updated with next-gen visuals and gameplay. Each year, 2K basically just re-releases a tweaked version of MLB 2K5 with a barebones roster update. And the game doesn't get patched if there's an issue, nor does it recieve roster updates throughout the year (I believe).Comment
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"MLB 2K9 on the PS2 also benefits [???] from ditching the right analog pitch controls. Some like them, some don't, but in this version it's all about the classic face button pitching." -- IGN review
Last edited by baa7; 06-30-2009, 09:23 AM.Comment
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"Closing Comments
"It’s weird for me to say that the best version of MLB 2K9 is on the PS2, but it really is. The oddities that happen in other versions (players running through walls and missing easy fly balls) don’t happen nearly as often and the overall experience is, simply put, better here. Sure, it doesn’t have a single new feature aside from commentators and a roster update, but the baseball is fun for the most part even if the hardware is older than your kid brother."
Again, the reason players don't run through walls etc. ala the next-gen version is because it's the exact same game engine as MLB 2K5, which never had those issues. I will say this though: after reading that review, I just might go rent this game.Comment
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baa,
Thank you for the replies. I read the same review and that also has my curiousity up. I figured it's basically the same game as 2K8 or 7 with roster updates. How do you get the CPU to generate offense besides hitting HR's. If I didn't give up homers, I'd shut the CPU out every game.
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The zone hitting mechanic in 2K5 was one of the best ever in a baseball game, and it annoyed me to no end that Kush replaced it with a dumbed-down timing-only system in the next-gen version. That would be my #1 reason to pick this game up.Comment
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baa7,
Thanks again for the reply.
How long did it take you to edit all the players? I didn't try that, but may mess with it and see what happens. I may stop and see if I can pick up 2K9 tonight. This thread has the wheels turning.
Thanks again.
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I ended up editing all power and contact ratings, as well as many players' fielding ratings, so it took me a while. I came up a ratings system that I believed worked better with the way the game's hitting engine is set up. Plus I was trying to create different styles of CPU hitters, mostly so I could take advantage of using IF/OF shifts when the CPU was up to bat. I really hate baseball games where shifting is pointless because every player hits line drives and deep fly balls.
The average player in 2K baseball gets a 75% power rating and a 65% contact rating, or whatever. But what happens is a player like that will always hit the ball hard and usually in the air. So the idea is to find a balance between the two ratings, in order to improve CPU hit variety.
So for example, a player with 80% power and 20% contact will hit a lot of line drives and hard groundballs, and will make a lot of groundball outs. So you can anticipate that, and move your infield out for those hitters. Conversely, a player with 20% power and 80% contact will hit a lot of bloops and shallow fly balls, so you move your outfield in for those players.
It's not until the player ratings have that kind of "ratings spread" that you start seeing real and actual CPU hit variety. That's what I was able to achieve with 2K5, and why I ended up playing that game for two years (never bought 2K6, 2K7, 2K8 or 2K9, although I rented and played the last three).
One more thing: I also edited players' fielding ratings. The game's fielding engine is pretty advanced compared with a game like The Show. Unlike The Show, fielding ratings mean everything. The CPU for example will sub in defensive players late in the game when it's ahead and is trying to hold a lead. When I played the Red Sox for example, the CPU would always yank Ortiz and Manny in the last inning if it was ahead (I play without the DH rule). That degree of game logic doesn't exist in The Show. But again, because players' default fielding ratings in 2K baseball are generally too high, you don't necessarily see that logic kick in during a game unless you've edited some of the players' fielding ratings.Last edited by baa7; 06-30-2009, 11:27 AM.Comment
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baa7,
THANK YOU for such a great reply!! I'm really stoked to get home and start working on this. I printed out your reply and will probably read it a few times. I still love my HH, but am really excited about the prospect of getting 2K to play a great game, too. Many many thanks.
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baa7,
Many thanks for such a detailed reply. I will do some editing and see how it goes. I'm still hopelessly hooked to my High Heat, but I'm definitely looking forward to playing around with 2K and having a better time with it. I still may pick up 2K9, but I'll probably experiment with 2K8 first. Many, many thanks, baa!!!
Sarge
(Sorry for the double post - I didn't think the first one made it on)Last edited by sergeantv; 06-30-2009, 12:39 PM.Comment
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Hey, no problem. Something I do: I edit a couple of teams and then play a few games with them to see how the edits affect the gameplay. And I keep tweaking it until I see the results I want. After which I try and edit a team a day, sometimes two. After a couple of weeks my league is finished and I'm ready to start a season. And in the meantime I've gotten to know the controls and have a good handle on how to play the game.Comment
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Well, I was gonna pick this game up yesterday, but my local wal-mart and gamestop didn't have it. So I guess I might have to order it online. I justed popped in ASB 2005 and I'm a little intrigued by that game, so I may or may not hold off on getting this one.Comment
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Re: Dare I ask about the PS2 version...
If you have a PS2, slap yourself for thinking about 2k9 and get The Show 09...
IT IS THE SAME GAME as the PS3, with lesser graphics...
its not even a roster update of 08 for PS2, there are many changes which add up to a great improvement over 08 which was awesome itself.Comment
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