Major League Baseball 2K10: MLB Developer Insights - Art Direction

[kcxiv]

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I wonder why 2K doesn't use Euphoria (BackBreaker football game Tech) for their sports titles like NBA2k, NHL2k, and MLB2k...

they use it for their other games like GTA4 and Red Dead Revolver.

Hehe, i think getting the license fee for it is a bit to much for a sports games. Plus that might set them back a bit and in the economy right now, its not a smart play. I would absolutely LOVE to see it in sports games, but 2K or EA is not willing to pull the trigger right now.

Look how long its taken Backbreaker to get polished up.

[Blzer]

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Hehe, i think getting the license fee for it is a bit to much for a sports games. Plus that might set them back a bit and in the economy right now, its not a smart play. I would absolutely LOVE to see it in sports games, but 2K or EA is not willing to pull the trigger right now.

Look how long its taken Backbreaker to get polished up.

Actually, 2K was considering using it in 2K7 or 2K8 (forget which one), but that idea quickly went by them while storyboarding what they wanted to do for that game. I guess it was just going to be too tough within the one year.

And as for the Backbreaker excuse, that was a brand new game, 2K at least has everything in place, NaturalMotion had the tech demos only.

[Jistic]

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It may not matter if the gameplay sucks. But I gotta give it up for this.

Now, the lighting is also accurate to not only the time of day games are played, but also the actual geographic location and orientation of each stadium and time of year your game is taking place. We consciously desaturated the parks slightly and brought the important time of day of “Dusk” into the product.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Maybe there is hope around animations... Alan mentioned the use of Inverse Kinematics,

(Inverse Kinematics- allows us to pull gloves and feet to their proper location to touch the base or catch the ball) and are now able to have realistic body proportions. The new skeleton also has a flexibility which won’t collapse the body of the player during complicated animations and allows better functioning hands and gloves.

so I googled IK & found this via Wiki:

Inverse kinematics is the process of determining the parameters of a jointed flexible object (a kinematic chain) in order to achieve a desired pose. Inverse kinematics is a type of motion planning. Inverse kinematics are also relevant to game programming and 3D animation, where a common use is making sure game characters connect physically to the world, such as feet landing firmly on top of terrain.

Seems like we may have more natural looking/moving Player Models

[RedbirdFan18]

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You would think they were flipped. I think the 2K9 face pics look better (even though all the face pics look a little oriental to me) except for the Beckett one i think the 2K10 one looks better. The stadiums look great can't wait for more info

No. The 2k10 face of albert is much better. Trust me, I watch the cardinals everyday, and the 2k10 face looks way better than the 2k9 face. For the hats, well, that's another matter.

[Jamin23]

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I notice how the numbers on the Phillies jerseys are too big. In real life they aren't that big.

[nemesis04]

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^ It does not really look off to me.

[Jamin23]

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^ It does not really look off to me.

It's not a big deal. Just a little observation.

[Blzer]

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It may not matter if the gameplay sucks. But I gotta give it up for this.

This was in 2K7, unsure about 2K8, and completely scrapped from 2K9.

Though even 2K7 had some weird red skies and such. From the Gamestop pics, it looks like this may be the best progressive lighting system put in a baseball game to date.

Oh, and the numbers look more than massive. They do need to address that. However I've seen games with tiny numbers (MLB 2K6), and I'd much prefer bigger numbers over smaller numbers. But, I'd also much prefer regular-sized numbers over bigger numbers.

[ablouin]

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I really hope the sky isn't completely dark at the start of night games. Does anyone know if progressive lighting will be in 2k10?

I can answer:.

First question: no it won't be dark for the start of night games since it's near summer and the sun sets at a later time, also this depends on the location of the actual stadium too.

Yes, There is progressive lighting going thru all the times of day for many weather conditions.

Thanks.

Alan

[Jamin23]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K10: MLB Developer Insights - Art Direction

I can answer:.

First question: no it won't be dark for the start of night games since it's near summer and the sun sets at a later time, also this depends on the location of the actual stadium too.

Yes, There is progressive lighting going thru all the times of day for many weather conditions.

Thanks.

Alan

Do you plan on doing something about the numbers and fonts on the jerseys? Thanks for taking the time to answer questions.

[Blzer]

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I can answer:.

First question: no it won't be dark for the start of night games since it's near summer and the sun sets at a later time, also this depends on the location of the actual stadium too.

Yes, There is progressive lighting going thru all the times of day for many weather conditions.

Thanks.

Alan

That's pretty awesome. For "all the times of day", does that mean we can set the hour of day again this year for exhibition games? (like 1:00 AM, etc.)

[DaveDQ]

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I wonder why 2K doesn't use Euphoria (BackBreaker football game Tech) for their sports titles like NBA2k, NHL2k, and MLB2k...

they use it for their other games like GTA4 and Red Dead Revolver.

Rockstar used the technology. They are in no way connected with 2K sports. They're simply both published by Take Two. And, after seeing Euphoria used in The Force Unleashed and GTA, I'm not sure it's as realistic as many want to believe.

Maybe there is hope around animations... Alan mentioned the use of Inverse Kinematics,



so I googled IK & found this via Wiki:



Seems like we may have more natural looking/moving Player Models

Nice lookup.

[topgundie]

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Not sure if anyone saw this too but they used the old twins script for the twins jerseys and behind home plate in the picture with Morneau. the script should look like the one on the right. the one on the left is what 2k used.

[kcxiv]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K10: MLB Developer Insights - Art Direction

Rockstar used the technology. They are in no way connected with 2K sports. They're simply both published by Take Two. And, after seeing Euphoria used in The Force Unleashed and GTA, I'm not sure it's as realistic as many want to believe.



Nice lookup.

eh, thats not what i been told. Even in NBA2K they said that we have used Image Metrics becuase they have worked with Rockstar and they had a relationship with them. To me that sounded like they were connected in someway.