Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

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I think that they need to change up the pitching in this game. Obviously it won't happen this year. The reason I think they should is because Total Control Pitching is so easy. Even with the meter speed at 100 I could paint the corners pitch after pitch. Pitching is such a vital part in baseball video games and if its not done properly the game can be ruined. This is part of what ruined it for me last year. Obviously there were many other problems but this was a major one.

I think 2k needs to go MVP and The Show's route with meter pitching. The green bar would get smaller as the pitcher gets tired and pitchers who aren't so good have a smaller green meter to begin with. I know that 2k is trying to do something that only they have. It's a great idea but I just don't think its working. Both 2k8 and 2k9 were just so easy to pitch. I think the only way to pitch is with meter pitching no question.

I know there is another option for pitching in 2k but that doesn't work either.

Pitching in baseball video games just needs to be meter style. It's the only way to have it realistic. There just doesn't seem to be a way to get realistic pitching with Total Control Pitching. Unless they figured it out this year, I think it should be scrapped for 2k11.

What does everyone else think about this?

[kcxiv]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

Hell no. I like the pitching as its been the last 2 years a million times better. IF 2K did that, people would crucify them even more then they already do.

[duke776]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I agree, I'm a fan of meter pitching. Especially the one that was in MVP, I thought it was done very well. I couldn't just throw stirke after strike or hit my spot each time, especially with pitchers who have little control.

Hell no. I like the pitching as its been the last 2 years a million times better. IF 2K did that, people would crucify them even more then they already do.

I think he means as an option. I'd like it added in as an option. I don't want 2k to take out the stick pitching because I realize that a lot of people like using the right stick to pitch.

[Jamin23]

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Could they have both as an option?

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Actually I meant take it out but actually having both meter and Total Control would be smart. Take out the other pitching option they have now and replace it with meter pitching. I actually think thats a much better idea. I understand most people like Total Control. I do as well but its too easy. The key is, can they make it harder. If not I don't want to use it.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I don't know. I absolutely love the pitching mechanic in 2K...it's my favorite aspect of the game. If they continue to tighten it up, I think it's here to stay. I'd imagine even SCEA will be including some type of stick options down the line (as I recall, there was even a litte givaway in that regard with the demo last year).

The mechanic isn't the problem IMO, it's the nuts and bolts behind it. The AI, whatever calculations are made, the ineffectiveness or lack of influence of ratings, etc. have all contributed to making the game feel too simplistic and arcadish.Hopefully they tuned that kind of stuff and focused on the more in-depth aspects of it. The early reports from Chase on that is encouraging at least.

I love the pitching in The Show...it's the best ever, overall for producing realistic results IMO. But it's the details, logic, etc that make it so great. In fact, many people prefer "classic pitching" to the meter. You get great results with both though. And none of that is to say 2K shouldn't maybe include it as an option...just not at the expense of the current gesture system. I'd miss it, personally.

[Jamin23]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I don't know. I absolutely love the pitching mechanic in 2K...it's my favorite aspect of the game. If they continue to tighten it up, I think it's here to stay. I'd imagine even SCEA will be including some type of stick options down the line (as I recall, there was even a litte givaway in that regard with the demo last year).

The mechanic isn't the problem IMO, it's the nuts and bolts behind it. The AI, whatever calculations are made, the ineffectiveness or lack of influence of ratings, etc. have all contributed to making the game feel too simplistic and arcadish.Hopefully they tuned that kind of stuff and focused on the more in-depth aspects of it. The early reports from Chase on that is encouraging at least.

I love the pitching in The Show...it's the best ever, overall IMO. But it's the details, logic, etc that make it so great. In fact, many people prefer "classic pitching" to the meter. You get great results with both though. And none of that is to say 2K shouldn't maybe include it as an option...just not at the expense of the current gesture system. I'd miss it, personally.

If they had the gesture, but took out the meatballs, I think the three step pitching would be fine. What messed it up was that every time you messed up it would result in a meatball which was an automatic home run.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

If they had the gesture, but took out the meatballs, I think the three step pitching would be fine. What messed it up was that every time you messed up it would result in a meatball which was an automatic home run.

Yeah, that is a big part of the problem and when coupled with the spotty AI and lack of ratings influence, it made the overall experience rough. IMO, 2K has tried too hard to manufacture difficulty rather than let it flow naturally through various game situations based on ratings, logic, AI strength, etc. User input should matter, but in concert with those factors.

Hopefully the new button selection will alleviate that so the game knows what you are inputting and then can use more realistic results for poor gestures. If they can get it right, it will be a huge boon to their game. The pitching itself is a blast until the results hamper the experience.

[tj1182]

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I would actually enjoy pitching if they added the meter. The meter in MVP was great. This whole total control crap is horrible, not as bad as 2K8's was, but still pretty bad.

[myghty]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

Hell no. I like the pitching as its been the last 2 years a million times better. IF 2K did that, people would crucify them even more then they already do.

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[jeffy777]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I like the gestures, but I also liked the pitching the way it was in 2K7 (minus the payoff pitches), where you select the pitch type with a button, then you push the button again to exapand the ring for power, then hit it again when it collapses for accuracy. They this as an option in 2K9, but it was nowhere near as nice as it was in 2K7.

My main problem with pitching in 2K is that the accuracy should be based more on the individual pitcher's ability/ratings and not entirely on the gestures or how good you are with the controls. Also, as was already mentioned, the meatballs need to go. When you mess up a pitch, it should be a ball, not an automatic smash for the AI.

[Blzer]

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I liked 2K8's pitching style (and have an option to keep the pitch insignias invisible). I hope they leave it in for 2K10.

[500Feet]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I like the gestures, but I also liked the pitching the way it was in 2K7 (minus the payoff pitches), where you select the pitch type with a button, then you push the button again to exapand the ring for power, then hit it again when it collapses for accuracy. They this as an option in 2K9, but it was nowhere near as nice as it was in 2K7.

Yea, I thought that was OK too. I didn't like how the pitching cursor looked in 2K9. Also, I didn't like how to hit accuracy you had to have a big circle filled with yellow. It should be the opposite like 2K7 had it.

[ckarlic]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

Could they have both as an option?

I agree. I never liked Total Control Pitching. I prefer the Show's pitching over 2k's TCP any day. The thing i like about the Show's pitching is even though you hit the green of the meter spot on, it won't guarantee your pitch will go exactly where you aimed in. In a real game, that happens a lot.

Another thing i like about the Show are the umpires. Sometimes they will miss a pitch so even if you nip the corner the ump won't necessarily call it a strike.

All in all, TCP is a great change but i would definitely welcome an option to choose between TCP and a meter like the Show

[kgisbeast]

Re: Does anyone think they should switch to meter pitching?

I'm not a big fan of meter pitching. It takes your eyes off the catchers glove which is not natural. You are looking in the upper corner and then switch to fielding and don't always see the ball coming off the bat. This is one thing i really like about 2k if they can continue to improve their control and build a solid game around it.

The thing I really liked about 2k9 last year was the feeling of delivering the pitch to the plate and the fielding controls. They just were really buggy and need work as far as pinpointing pitches etc... the batting controls also need some work conceptually.