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  • Scottdau
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #61
    Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

    Originally posted by Knight165
    While I wholeheartedly agree....not every player can...as a matter of fact...I'd say it's just a few who really can do this with any regularity.
    So....we'll have to see how this is implemented as to what advantage each player will translate to the USER in the AB.
    If it's the same for everyone across the board......it might now work out so well.
    To me...it's just like the power swing.....I do not like it. It doesn't belong in the(any) game IMO.

    M.K.
    Knight165
    Yep I agree with this. I was great at in college Willie McGee taught it to us at CCC during the summer. The only thing is I sucked at hitting a good pitch. So even when I got the pitch I wanted, because I could foul of some dookie pitches I still made the out.

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    • PVarck31
      Moderator
      • Jan 2003
      • 16869

      #62
      Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

      I will weigh in on the defensive swing debate. This will be another point of view from a former college player.

      When I was down in the count, and a pitch was borderline ball/strike but was not a pitch I could do anything with, I would take a "sloppy" hack at it. Literally trying to foul it off, so I could get a better pitch. Now sometimes it would work and sometimes I would slap a littler flair over the first baseman's head.

      How this will translate into the game, I am not sure. It seems to me it would be to hard to use the defensive swing as a last second bail out. And intentionally using it as a predetermined thought is not something that would be considered "sim."

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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #63
        Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

        Originally posted by JT30
        Oh I know.. I am afraid that in this game, it might be abused and too many batters will easily fight off pitches with regularity.

        My point was that "protecting the plate" is certainly not some broadcast lingo.
        Yep...and I meant to say...a few guys on each team(not just a few out of the 750 in the league.

        M.K.
        Knight165
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        • Scottdau
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          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #64
          Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

          Originally posted by JT30
          Yes I am talking about batters fouling off pitches they can't handle.
          I was referring to you about saying getting the pitcher tired.

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          • Scottdau
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            • Feb 2003
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            #65
            Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

            I agree JT that is the big fear there is always the cheese factors. I hope it is not a gimmick, but it actually works and is hard to do with every player.

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            • JT30
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 2123

              #66
              Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

              Originally posted by pjv31
              I will weigh in on the defensive swing debate. This will be another point of view from a former college player.

              When I was down in the count, and a pitch was borderline ball/strike but was not a pitch I could do anything with, I would take a "sloppy" hack at it. Literally trying to foul it off, so I could get a better pitch. Now sometimes it would work and sometimes I would slap a littler flair over the first baseman's head.

              How this will translate into the game, I am not sure. It seems to me it would be to hard to use the defensive swing as a last second bail out. And intentionally using it as a predetermined thought is not something that would be considered "sim."
              Agree 100%. I was gonna mention, just like you did, that good batters have the ability to slap at pitches they cant handle, that might be borderline strikes. How it's going to work in this game, who knows, but good batters certainly can foul off pitches on purpose.

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              • Artman22
                MVP
                • Jul 2006
                • 4982

                #67
                Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                Originally posted by Knight165
                Yep...and I meant to say...a few guys on each team(not just a few out of the 750 in the league.

                M.K.
                Knight165
                I agree with you on that. I'm sure it's mainly the real hitters.
                NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                • JT30
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 2123

                  #68
                  Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                  Originally posted by Scottdau
                  I agree JT that is the big fear there is always the cheese factors. I hope it is not a gimmick, but it actually works and is hard to do with every player.
                  I am actually wondering if you decide to use the defensive swing, is it 100% guaranteed contact? That would be horrible.. I am also wondering, if you can indeed miss, maybe it will do a check swing? I doubt it. Who knows, but I wish they didn't take out the check swing... really puts a damper on the whole pitch/bat struggle

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #69
                    Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                    It is still a big gamble, so you want see too many hitters do it, but the ones that are good at it do make it look easy.

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                    • kcxiv
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2564

                      #70
                      Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                      Originally posted by JT30
                      I am actually wondering if you decide to use the defensive swing, is it 100% guaranteed contact? That would be horrible.. I am also wondering, if you can indeed miss, maybe it will do a check swing? I doubt it. Who knows, but I wish they didn't take out the check swing... really puts a damper on the whole pitch/bat struggle
                      i am pretty sure in one of the articles that its not gaurantee'ed and you still have to have the timing down.

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42508

                        #71
                        Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                        Originally posted by kcxiv
                        Cause i think he has an agenda. (just my opinion) None of us know how it really works yet. We have to see it work. Batters do try to foul off pitches that are strikes, but in their cold zone. it happens all the time, but only great hitters can do it consistently.
                        Great players don't swing at pitches that they don't want to hit. I'm not a "great player", but I play with the exact same mindset.

                        We just need to see it for ourselves to see how it works.
                        Until then, we're sitting here waiting... waiting...

                        It has been a few weeks with articles and interviews, and yet still no gameplay videos. We have nothing to go on, so talk we must.
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                        • kcxiv
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                          • Dec 2005
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                          #72
                          Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Great players don't swing at pitches that they don't want to hit. I'm not a "great player", but I play with the exact same mindset.



                          Until then, we're sitting here waiting... waiting...

                          It has been a few weeks with articles and interviews, and yet still no gameplay videos. We have nothing to go on, so talk we must.
                          I dont think thats true at all. I think, that certain players that are great have trouble with certain pitches and they will foul them off until the pitcher makes a mistake or he makes a mistake. Like i said, not everyone can do it, but alot can, you will see them take half effort hacks at them as well. LOL, maybe i should twitter Longoria or a pro player and ask them about this.

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42508

                            #73
                            Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                            Originally posted by kcxiv
                            I dont think thats true at all. I think, that certain players that are great have trouble with certain pitches and they will foul them off until the pitcher makes a mistake or he makes a mistake. Like i said, not everyone can do it, but alot can, you will see them take half effort hacks at them as well. LOL, maybe i should twitter Longoria or a pro player and ask them about this.
                            Are we talking about two strike counts, or non two strike counts? In a non two strike count, I'm more than likely not swinging at a pitch that's in a "cold zone" of mine. In a two strike count, I've obviously expanded my vision to the entire strike zone, but I still don't look beyond that.

                            That being said, I've taken some strike three calls in my day where I wasn't particularly proud of the umpire's ability to show off that he can punch a fist better than he can see a ball crossing over the plate (or not, for that matter).
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                            • MukaMuka
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                              • Jan 2008
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                              #74
                              um, I hate the 2k series batting view. it's already so far away from the hitter and now they are moving it even farther back (just check out the screenshots here on OS). even World Series Baseball on sega Genesis had better batting cams. and i hope this touted "batting eye" is not just for the benefit of user controlled batting, it better be for the CPU too, if I load up the demo of this game and the CPU is first pitch hitting again i won't even bother to rent this game.
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                              • dorismary
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3794

                                #75
                                Re: Major League Baseball 2K10 Interview (ESPN)

                                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis



                                Exactly right Jim. Some hitters are better at making contact on bad pitches, or late swings, but they are by no means, intentionally fouling off pitches for "their pitch". That is all broadcasting hype.

                                Every time you commit to a swing, it is in hopes to put it in play.
                                Totally disagree with both of you on that as I remember many players grown up doing this regulary on close pitches ALOT in a row but they would swing late on close pitches till they got their pitch or walked.
                                Anouncers would always mention this as alot of guys on KC / STL did this maybe a Howser /White Rat thing but Im pretty sure it was a taught skill back in the day.
                                Still not cool no check swing does that include button swing ?
                                Must have been something bad for them to leave a function like that .
                                Last edited by dorismary; 01-27-2010, 06:56 AM.

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