Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

[JayBruce32]

I'm not talking about rookie or pro difficulty here. Those don't provide with good sim baseball results.

I have a slider set that is very realistic with most guys; they'll wind up with their 40 homer seasons and 30 (guys like Joey Votto). but I play with the Reds. There are guys in the lineup who I'm convinced will absolutely never hit a homer, and that's not accurate. These are guys like Orlando Cabrera, Scott Rolen, Ryan Hanigan, Ramon Hernandez, even Chris Dickerson and Drew Stubbs. These guys will never ever homer and my power/contact sliders are set to 45/45 so its basically hitting on all-star.

Anyone else get this feeling that annoys them?

[Blzer]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

I had this feeling back in January. I'm saddened to say that this may be the truth, but I'll need a larger sample size.

Case in point, they need an option for a standard one-button swing next year which normalizes their power and contact ability and simply lets their attributes do the math and calculate where their balls go. Separating power and contact into swings does not help anybody that's trying to get results as they're supposed to come, not as we make them come.

[reo]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

I'm not talking about rookie or pro difficulty here. Those don't provide with good sim baseball results.

I have a slider set that is very realistic with most guys; they'll wind up with their 40 homer seasons and 30 (guys like Joey Votto). but I play with the Reds. There are guys in the lineup who I'm convinced will absolutely never hit a homer, and that's not accurate. These are guys like Orlando Cabrera, Scott Rolen, Ryan Hanigan, Ramon Hernandez, even Chris Dickerson and Drew Stubbs. These guys will never ever homer and my power/contact sliders are set to 45/45 so its basically hitting on all-star.

Anyone else get this feeling that annoys them?

How many games have you played? How many home runs have been hit by your club? How many has each player hit? etc. Your post lacks data.

[jeffy777]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

It's hard to find the perfect balance in a baseball game, but honestly I'd rather have it like this with fewer homeruns and not have a homerun fest which is what most people were worried about.

[JonahFalcon]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

In 2010, Brett Gardner hit 8 HRs in my game. Any player can hit a HR. I've seen some pretty cheap HRs in the game, like one just wrapping itself around the Pesky Pole.

[Romeclone]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

Yeah, I was very worried about this issue. Not looking good that flea's are not able to hit one out.

However, that being said, I wonder if there is a way to test this out...

I bet if you had Con and Pow at 100 you could hit one out with say, Juan Pierre. If you kept scaling back the power and contact numbers I wonder where the magic number would be for then they are unable to hit one out.

And, when you find that spot, could your power hitters still hit them out with only a contact swing? Sounds like some lab work could be done and this might be able to be fixed with sliders.

[JBH3]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

How many games have you played? How many home runs have been hit by your club? How many has each player hit? etc. Your post lacks data.

In defense of Jay Bruce this was somewhat an issue last year too. I could hit HRs w/ guys like Victorino and Rollins, but still not at the clip I expected to or that jived w/ their real-life counterparts.

[reo]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

In defense of Jay Bruce this was somewhat an issue last year too. I could hit HRs w/ guys like Victorino and Rollins, but still not at the clip I expected to or that jived w/ their real-life counterparts.

(NOTE: I realize I should of used 162 game numbers but I'm not about to do the work).

In 4 full MLB seasons, Victorino has hit 42 HR. That's an average of 10.5 a season.
In 9 full MLB seasons, Rollins has hit 146. That's an average of 16.2.

Would you have been anywhere close to those average HR numbers?

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

I hit one with Willie Harris...hes like 51 power 47 contact....I power swung....

Basically, get ahead in the count, wait on a fastball, power swing. Thats realistic, not cheesy, and will result in home runs for all kinds of players.

[JayBruce32]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

How many games have you played? How many home runs have been hit by your club? How many has each player hit? etc. Your post lacks data.

I have played 10 games.

Thus far:

Jay Bruce - 5 HR
Johnny Gomes - 1 HR

I know Votto will be able to hit them
I think brandon Phillips will be able to.

I also played about 18 games with the D-Rays. Better variability but they're better hitters.
Longoria: 9 HR
Pena: 7 HR
Adrian Gonzalez: 4 HR
Pat Burrell: 4 HR
Ben Zobrist: 3 HR
Reserve outfielder: 2 HR
Fernando Tatis: 1 HR
Carl Crawford: 1 HR

but guys in the lineup like Fernando Perez, and Dioner Navarro, they're never going to hit one, I can just tell. And that part of this game stinks IMO

[JayBruce32]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

In 2010, Brett Gardner hit 8 HRs in my game. Any player can hit a HR. I've seen some pretty cheap HRs in the game, like one just wrapping itself around the Pesky Pole.

Was it on Pro or Rookie?

And this means you were controlling Yankees/Gardner, right? I've seen fleas on the AI teams hit them out now and then. I'm talking about user controlled.

[JayBruce32]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

(NOTE: I realize I should of used 162 game numbers but I'm not about to do the work).

In 4 full MLB seasons, Victorino has hit 42 HR. That's an average of 10.5 a season.
In 9 full MLB seasons, Rollins has hit 146. That's an average of 16.2.

Would you have been anywhere close to those average HR numbers?

I'm not going to be able to even hit one with Orlando Cabrera, or Ramon Hernandez. Probably none with Chris Dickerson. These guys aren't Rafael Belliard here. They're guys who can hit 10 to 15 in real life.

[JayBruce32]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

I hit one with Willie Harris...hes like 51 power 47 contact....I power swung....

Basically, get ahead in the count, wait on a fastball, power swing. Thats realistic, not cheesy, and will result in home runs for all kinds of players.

But was it on rookie or pro? If not, this is really good news that it CAN happen with the user CON/POW set to around 45/45

[Blzer]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

I have a feeling it has a whole lot to do with pitching gesture. I seem to only give up big hits to the CPU when I throw a weak pitch (that tends to be the case, at least). That said, when we get our big hits, it's probably for the same reason... that they're throwing a "weak" pitch, perhaps by some sort of randomness or because of pitcher confidence.

That said, this is probably 2010's version of the 2K "meatball", only it's not visible when the CPU throws to us and it's not necessarily always over the middle of the plate.

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

Re: Homering not possible with every player in lineup?

But was it on rookie or pro? If not, this is really good news that it CAN happen with the user CON/POW set to around 45/45

Well its a custom difficulty...and I haven't touched CPUs pitching sliders and I think I changed things from Pro...but my hitting sliders are at 50/50