Disappointing sim stats...

[derekjeter76]

This game has many numerous problems with simulated stats during franchise that annoy the hell out of me, why is it so hard to get these right? honestly???

1.Too many star pitchers have ERAs upwards of 5. For example, Rivera had an ERA of nearly 6 and CC Sabathia had an ERA of over 6 and the next year their overall ratings drop by 8+.

2. WAYYYY too many HRs. This contributed to high ERAs. Players with 50 power all hit about 15+ HRs and Brian Roberts won the MVP with 30 HRs.

3. Stolen bases galore. You know something is wrong when David Ortiz steals 17 bases in a season. Also Tampa Bay led the MLB with 300 steals in a single season. WTF? You have guys like Robinson Cano with less than 10 career steals in real life swiping 30 bases a season.

Those are just some of the glaring issues wrong with simulated stats that I hope are fixed in the patch that is supposedly coming mid-April but I won't keep my fingers crossed.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Not to mention the base stealers winning MVP almost every year. I haven't even seen Albert Pujols in the Top 5 for MVP yet...

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Yeah, sim stats are definitely broken and that's putting it nicely. The lowest ERA I've seen for a full season in either league was Roy Halladay with a 3.32 ERA.

In that same season:

Felix Hernandez - 4.95 ERA
Cliff Lee - 4.55
Tim Lincecum - 4.42
Chad Billingsley - 5.04
CC Sabathia - 3.97
Zach Greinke - 4.22
Mariano Rivera - 5.15, 12 BS

There are a lot more, but it's ridiculous. Rich Harden won the AL Cy Young with a 14-11 record, 3.99 ERA and 166 K's.

Home runs were ridiculous as well. Ichiro hit 25, Rollins hit 38.

Blow up the sim engine because it stinks, 2K.

[Woodcutta]

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Yeah, sim stats are definitely broken and that's putting it nicely. The lowest ERA I've seen for a full season in either league was Roy Halladay with a 3.32 ERA.

In that same season:

Felix Hernandez - 4.95 ERA
Cliff Lee - 4.55
Tim Lincecum - 4.42
Chad Billingsley - 5.04
CC Sabathia - 3.97
Zach Greinke - 4.22
Mariano Rivera - 5.15, 12 BS

There are a lot more, but it's ridiculous. Rich Harden won the AL Cy Young with a 14-11 record, 3.99 ERA and 166 K's.

Home runs were ridiculous as well. Ichiro hit 25, Rollins hit 38.

Blow up the sim engine because it stinks, 2K.

Rollins hitting 38 isn't that far fetched. He hit 30 a few years ago. Ichiro could hit 25 HR's but his average would take a huge dip and would change the type of player he is so he would never sacrifice average and stolen bases to hit 10-15 more HR's a year. What I can't get over is the inflation and deflation of so many stats and the undeserving winning awards. Pujols hitting .260 even after getting traded to the Yankees (trade was Pujols, Carpenter, and Ludwick for ARod, Sabathia, and Swisher) just isn't realistic.

Ex. My player had this line.... .429 avg, 25 HR's, 148 RBI's, 90 R, 73 SB's yet didn't win the Silver Slugger over Cano (.286, 28 HR's, 88 RBI, 52 SB) yet My Player won the MVP.

[Pmogs10]

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All I have to say to this thread is Luis Castillo hit 16 HR's and 22 HR's in the 2 seasons I simmed, WOW WOW WOW!!!!! You can argue and dispute any other stat in the world but that right there proves beyond a resonable doubt that 2K's SIM engine is BAD!!!!!!!!!!



update edit: Castillo 14 years in MLB, 28 HR's! ha ha

[JBH3]

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"Disappointing" is an understatement.

I think the most annoying for me is seeing Tim Lincecum w/ an ERA in the 6's in my current franchise. I'm like I should pitch a few games w/ him just to get his ERA to a respectable number, but the thing is I don't want to play as the Giants and shouldn't have to supplement a stupid sim engine's failures by playing games for teams/pitchers who I want to see their stats corrected.

[adamj2281]

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So it sounds like the game is high on the offensive side, what about toning down everyone's contact/power ratings? It would be a pain, but it might help. Especially the power ratings, of course, I'm guessing that Luis Castillo's power is already pretty low.

[Woodcutta]

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That is only one of the problems. The stamina is broken on this game. Pitchers pitch until their arms fall off. I saw a pitcher throw over 180 pitches in a game. If the stamina was working right I bet those bloated ERA's would halve.

[derekjeter76]

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That is only one of the problems. The stamina is broken on this game. Pitchers pitch until their arms fall off. I saw a pitcher throw over 180 pitches in a game. If the stamina was working right I bet those bloated ERA's would halve.

I don't think the stamina bug affects simulated games.

Also do pitchers have a power vs. rating like they did last year?? It seems they only have a contact against.

[Woodcutta]

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I don't think the stamina bug affects simulated games.

Also do pitchers have a power vs. rating like they did last year?? It seems they only have a contact against.

Yes, the stamina bug affects every single game whether simmed or not. Go ahead and look at some random box scores and tell me the pitch counts are anything close to realistic. Also, there have been times when my pitcher has given up 8+ runs in an inning and he won't be pulled. It doesn't matter if it is the 1st inning or the 7th inning when that happens either. If these major problems aren't fixed with the upcoming patch or any other patch I'm starting to think another party NEEDS to start making a baseball game. This is just sad.

[nld230]

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Rollins hitting 38 isn't that far fetched. He hit 30 a few years ago. .

No, not in the mlb world. But in this game, Rollins contact and power are in the 60s. The ratings HAVE to mean something. If the developers wanted J-Roll to be the 30+ homer, high average, GG shortstop he was a few years ago, they should have made his attributes better.

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Remember, pitcher ERA's were inflated last year too, but it seems overall that 2K10's stats engine is way worse.

What I did last year was edit the attributes of A LOT of pitchers. I made them filthy. I made them maxed out versus LH and RH batters, I upped their strikeout rating, etc... I got realistic results but I only did this with the elite guys (Greinke, Halladay, Lincecum, Webb, etc...).

So I had a ton of 99 rated pitchers in the game, but at least the stats were much more realistic.

I'll also drastically lower power ratings and steal tendency for a ton of players.

I will do all this after this game gets a couple of patches. I usually don't start my real franchise until after Opening Day. All in all, I expect to spend two or three hours editing players. It sucks and it shouldn't have to be done, but if that's the only thing that gives me realistic results, then so be it.

Hopefully, 2K patches their sim engine because it completely destroys franchise mode for me.

[reo]

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Granderson has 35+ in my My Player mode.

[Wavebird99]

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I think this may be a franchise killer, seriously. The simmed game stats are wayyy off. Guys frequently get like 5 or 6 walks a game or something. Its 20x worse than last year

[viking12344]

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Gonna start calling this series triple play 2k10