Take-Two Interactive Suggests MLB Exclusivity May End When 2012 Deal Expires

[Artman22]

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Having different development teams is definitely part of it but to me it seems like the level of baseball knowledge of the current development team seems light. When they initially release a game that does not have a check swing system implemented that is a huge red flag to me. When I play 2k baseball it feels like baseball at face value without all the idiosyncrasy's of the sport.

I see what you mean, and I'm not apologizing for it, but maybe they didn't have enough time to get it working properly IDK. I feel that check swings should have been there from the start. There are many things missing in this game. I feel like the fielding animations need to be completely redone.

[ryan36]

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Come on guys n' gals, I thought 2k10 was really fun. Yet I play the Show religiously, let's not ascribe our arbitrary definitions of "good" to others' opinions.

The games have different strengths , keep it civil and NO game warring.

[timmermac]

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So far, my only problem with the 2k series has been - to me - a glaring error in at least one statistical computation that the game has made in the versions that I've seen. If 2k10 has fixed this, please let me know, as I don't have the game and haven't tried to play it elsewhere. The computation for fielding percentage is supposed to be (PO + A)/(PO+A+E)=FP. The game doesn't even calculate total chances correctly, as it doesn't add A to the equation. It also calculates FP incorrectly, even taking into account the lack of A in the equation. The game calculates FP using the equation (PO-E)/PO=FP, which is so far off I almost did a spit-take the first time I saw it, back in 2K6. It still did it that way in 2K9, at least on the PS2.

[CardsGamer5]

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I see what you mean, and I'm not apologizing for it, but maybe they didn't have enough time to get it working properly IDK. I feel that check swings should have been there from the start. There are many things missing in this game. I feel like the fielding animations need to be completely redone.

I like both, even though I prefer the Show a bit more,but I think you're correct with this. Another huge thing, have you seen the swings? They look HORRID. Just look at a video and see how the players swing, it looks so unrealistic.

[MLB01]

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It's very clear YOU don't like mlb2k, so why keep bashing the game? Or better yet since you don't like the game why do you ruin it for others that probably like the game?

How am I ruining it for others ? It's not even like that. I'm just here to talk about MLB 2K. What ? I'm not allowed to post in this forum cause I prefer to play MLB The Show ? Is that how it is ?

[countryboy]

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How am I ruining it for others ? It's not even like that. I'm just here to talk about MLB 2K. What ? I'm not allowed to post in this forum cause I prefer to play MLB The Show ? Is that how it is ?

not when you're constantly bashing and slamming the game. Thats called trolling and its annoying to read through.

[spankdatazz22]

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not when you're constantly bashing and slamming the game. Thats called trolling and its annoying to read through.

what he said

[metal134]

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I'm glad at the prospect of exclusivity ending, but honestly, I'm not all that excited about a new MVP. I feel that MVP 2005, while fun in short bursts and not without it's merits, is a highly overrated game, for my tastes at least. It never achieved on the field statistal realism and any game that doesn't do that, to me, is dead in the water. It's fun to play exhibition games every now and then, but it can't hold my attention long term. Now, I felt it was a game that had trememndous potentional, but had a long way to go. The way I felt about the Show for a long time until 08'. If there is a new MVP game, they will essentially have to start over. I doubt EA would just pick up a 7 year old game and just take it from there.

[DickDalewood]

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I'm glad at the prospect of exclusivity ending, but honestly, I'm not all that excited about a new MVP. I feel that MVP 2005, while fun in short bursts and not without it's merits, is a highly overrated game, for my tastes at least. It never achieved on the field statistal realism and any game that doesn't do that, to me, is dead in the water. It's fun to play exhibition games every now and then, but it can't hold my attention long term. Now, I felt it was a game that had trememndous potentional, but had a long way to go. The way I felt about the Show for a long time until 08'. If there is a new MVP game, they will essentially have to start over. I doubt EA would just pick up a 7 year old game and just take it from there.

It's not about all these other companies instantly releasing great games... it's about these other companies now BEING ABLE TO release a game. Whether those games are great right of the gate or not is irrelevant, what IS needed is the competition this will provide, which will in turn result in better games across the board.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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not when you're constantly bashing and slamming the game. Thats called trolling and its annoying to read through.

CB, you know this has always been a "gray area" on this very forum. Some will leave some criticism, and then be jumped on for bashing. When they are just voicing their displeasure no different than ones that do it on any other forum. I personally don't see him as trolling any more than the ones who feel they need to turn the blind eye to glaring issues, and lambaste him for his displeasure's about the game.

How is a game to improve if one can not voice their displeasure's in certain areas?

He has no infractions for his comments, they are not to that point. Not everyone is going to like what everyone has to say. That is why proper discourse and healthy constructive feedback is what is needed. Not have him attacked by the same group who jumps on people every year in this very forum, for having issues with areas of the game that the general consensus knows needs improvement.

I am not trying to stick up for anyone, but it seems it is already starting where one's can not say anything that bothers them about this game, without being labeled as something they clearly are not doing. How is this forum supposed to function if all the comments have to always be positive?

Any-who, just my observation over the past year on here, and thus why I avoided this forum at all costs this past year.

It's not about all these other companies rereleasing GREAT games... it's about these other companies now BEING ABLE TO release a game. Whether those games are great right of the gate or not is irrelevant, what IS needed is the competition this will provide, which will in turn result in better games across the board.

Agreed!

In 05', while not every game was perfect, it was the best year for baseball gaming competition.

MVP 05
ASB 05
WSB 05
HH 05
MLB 05



But we are also lucky to have developers (SCEA-SD) who care so much about their game and the sport of baseball, as well as their consumers to pump out a great game, and try to outdo themselves every year.

[JayhawkerStL]

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CB, you know this has always been a "gray area" on this very forum. Some will leave some criticism, and then be jumped on for bashing. When they are just voicing their displeasure no different than ones that do it on any other forum. I personally don't see him as trolling any more than the ones who feel they need to turn the blind eye to glaring issues, and lambaste him for his displeasure's about the game.

How is a game to improve if one can not voice their displeasure's in certain areas?

He has no infractions for his comments, they are not to that point. Not everyone is going to like what everyone has to say. That is why proper discourse and healthy constructive feedback is what is needed. Not have him attacked by the same group who jumps on people every year in this very forum, for having issues with areas of the game that the general consensus knows needs improvement.

I am not trying to stick up for anyone, but it seems it is already starting where one's can not say anything that bothers them about this game, without being labeled as something they clearly are not doing. How is this forum supposed to function if all the comments have to always be positive?

Any-who, just my observation over the past year on here, and thus why I avoided this forum at all costs this past year.

I don't think your characterization of MLB01 is accurate. Often his hit and run comments are just potshots at developers. But what really annoys those of us that have enjoyed the 2K series over the last few years is how he pretends that overlook issues in the game.

Even the biggest supporters of he game acknowledge the slew of problems with the game. Most of the time it is 360 users that are trying to find work-arounds and ways to enjoy the game despite the issues. No one is voting for it in game of the year polls. No one is trying to convince PS3 users to abandon The Show. We have just found a way to enjoy in spite of some of its problems.

MLB01 hates the game. He has a PS3 and and enjoys the heck out of The Show. There is, seriously, not a single reason for him to CONTINUE to pick at the flaws of the game. Baseball season is over. No one is buying either game anymore. There is no customer that needs saving from a flawed purchase. And really, is there anyone on OS that doesn't understand exactly where 2K baseball stands right now?

So when we look forward to what might be a better game next year, we really don't need him to take time to just bash the game. There are plenty of us that are excited for the new game that have listed out what needs to be improved, what might be improved, and what probably won't be improved. THAT'S a discussion.

MLB01 only contributes negative impressions, and does so by slamming the developers. If he has no faith in the game, he should move on, and follow The Show's development. If the the 2K game drops and happens to be good, it will be there waiting for him.

But the fact is, he is a troll. When he sees a 2K baseball thread, he is not visiting it to see what people have to say and discuss the game. He sees it as another opportunity to pile on and call out the same flaws that he has been repeating incessantly for months. It's pathetic. And it is unnecessary because for this game, the fans of the game are acutely aware of the problems facing the series.

You are right. This is a gray area. But MLB01 is not in it. He is full-on in the black.

[MLB01]

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How did I become the topic ? Jeez.. I liked MLB 2K7. I played it on 360 a lot. After that though, I felt the series went downhill. I'm just sayin' what I think. I don't have an agenda to bash the series at all.

After I sold my 360 and got a PS3, I even bought a used copy of MLB 2K7, but it's not the same game on PS3. The framerate is terrible and the graphics aren't up to the 360 version, but I did play a few full games and I gotta tell ya, they were on the right path with that game - the right path.

I can honestly say that MLB 2K10 was an improvement on MLB 2K9, but that doesn't mean a lot. The hitting was greatly improved. The fielding was improved a bit. I didn't like the pitching cause I felt it was too easy. I liked the pitching in 2K7.

[Artman22]

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I don't think your characterization of MLB01 is accurate. Often his hit and run comments are just potshots at developers. But what really annoys those of us that have enjoyed the 2K series over the last few years is how he pretends that overlook issues in the game.

Even the biggest supporters of he game acknowledge the slew of problems with the game. Most of the time it is 360 users that are trying to find work-arounds and ways to enjoy the game despite the issues. No one is voting for it in game of the year polls. No one is trying to convince PS3 users to abandon The Show. We have just found a way to enjoy in spite of some of its problems.

MLB01 hates the game. He has a PS3 and and enjoys the heck out of The Show. There is, seriously, not a single reason for him to CONTINUE to pick at the flaws of the game. Baseball season is over. No one is buying either game anymore. There is no customer that needs saving from a flawed purchase. And really, is there anyone on OS that doesn't understand exactly where 2K baseball stands right now?

So when we look forward to what might be a better game next year, we really don't need him to take time to just bash the game. There are plenty of us that are excited for the new game that have listed out what needs to be improved, what might be improved, and what probably won't be improved. THAT'S a discussion.

MLB01 only contributes negative impressions, and does so by slamming the developers. If he has no faith in the game, he should move on, and follow The Show's development. If the the 2K game drops and happens to be good, it will be there waiting for him.

But the fact is, he is a troll. When he sees a 2K baseball thread, he is not visiting it to see what people have to say and discuss the game. He sees it as another opportunity to pile on and call out the same flaws that he has been repeating incessantly for months. It's pathetic. And it is unnecessary because for this game, the fans of the game are acutely aware of the problems facing the series.

You are right. This is a gray area. But MLB01 is not in it. He is full-on in the black.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone of us knows the problems with this franchise, and we all have discussed it to death without bashing the game. We all agree that this franchise needs lots of work. No one is turning the blind eye to anything. I love baseball in general, and really like the show and to me it's the better game, but I also enjoy mlb2k. Country Boy was 100% correct on what he said about MLB01. When all you do is go to a forum to talk about how terrible mlb2k is at every chance you get, and how the developers are terrible. It becomes annoying to hear it ALL the time. There's a big difference between bashing and constructive criticism. Lets not derail the thread. We all want the exclusive license to be a thing of the past so we can all have more options, or atleast I know I do.

[JayhawkerStL]

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We all want the exclusive license to be a thing of the past so we can all have more options, or at least I know I do.

And I do as well.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Well lets get back on topic, and not lambaste MLB01 too much, because then you yourself would in essence be trolling.

I have not followed him too much, but I also never seen anything too serious, or he would have have an infraction already... there is a report function people.

If you feel it is that bad and needs reporting, then do so, calling him out just creates unwanted tension, and things get off topic, nothing gets discussed, and then nobody enjoys themselves.

I think we all want the exclusive licensing crap to stop... for every sport. We all want years like 05 for variety and just about every baseball game was owned by us hardcore that year.