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  • steveHOLT.canuck
    Rookie
    • Nov 2010
    • 18

    #31
    Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

    I tend to agree with Jayhawker.

    Remember those comments were made by the CEO for Take2, it wasn't the CEO of 2K let alone the president of VC. It was the money man talking, not the people making the games.

    Personally, when I read the comments by the Take 2 executives I thought it was serving 2 purposes:

    1. I think it was a bit of scapegoating when reporting the some down financials to the shareholders. It is a great position for the current execs because they can blame some of the financial losses on this bad licensing deal that they did not sign.

    2. I think they were also setting a clear opening negotiation position with the MLB. Basically, the never again will you get that deal message was sent loud and clear. At some point they would need to set this expectation with the MLB...I think they just did it very publicly and very vocally.

    while it's hard, I try to think of the 2k series as really starting over again with 2k10. I think 2k9 was a disaster because the teams changed half way through the dev cycle. So for me I think of 2k10 as VC's first real attempt at baseball and while it wasn't perfect I thought they started the game down the right path. Like many have mentioned, VC's track record with sports game is solid and impressive. That gives me hope.

    I just can't imagine that the same people that made all these great sports games will not give it their all. I honestly believe that the people at VC seem to take pride in their games and want to make the best sports games on the markety.

    That's my take on it and also my one and only comment on the topic.

    From now on, I'm going to let the games do the talking and I hope I like what they say. I'm going to go watch the Brian Wilson short again....that guy is awesome!

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    • Doormat
      The Champ Is Here
      • Mar 2009
      • 2338

      #32
      Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

      Can't wait to see these new animations and continue my player mode which I haven't passed day 1 in last year's game. Will keep an eye this year thanks to Nadas fan's videos.
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      • brendanrfoley
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 1552

        #33
        I'm excited to sew the new animations, especially if the base running animation has been redone.

        I understand some people are disappointed the game looks so similar to last year, but a better playing and better animating 2K10 would be a very good thing in my opinion.

        I can't wait to see it in motion and read the next Developer's Diary.

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42520

          #34
          Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
          I totally agree. I got that sense from Sean Bailey in the dev video. It's like they were embarrassed with some of the issues 2K10 had and are making a point to talk about it and improve the core issues with the game. He also mentioned that 2K10 just didn't have enough polish and it's something they are working on. That gives me good hope for 2K11.
          I mean that's all good and dandy (and frankly I wouldn't have it any other way), but then it just brings me back to this thread that I contributed to with the same issues I'm having again this time:

          http://operationsports.com/forums/2k...-mlb-2k10.html

          I know it's a tough argument to make, with them showing where improvements have been made; but for them to have gone on with 2K10 as if all fielding was improved is kind of a joke. It showed it in the trailer, and now they might as well have another one of these again this year. I mean what did they expect when it came to selling 2K10? People won't buy something if it's not worth $60 to them. I don't know why 2K things they can or deserve to convince people otherwise.

          Hopefully this year's title will be worth it, but I have a feeling next year they're going to be noting some more improvements that they felt weren't right about this year's game, even though they completely ignored or falsified us about them this year.
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          • JayhawkerStL
            Banned
            • Apr 2004
            • 3644

            #35
            Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

            Sigh...

            But the fielding was a lot better in 2K10. People complained that it was imprecise and they made errors becasue the game would not let them do what they wanted. Specifically, they eliminated the missed routine fly balls.

            I can understand why some folks don't like the fix they implemented, and it seems like they are taking steps to rectify that, but they didn't lie.

            And the game is $60 if you want to buy it day one. Feel free to think it is not worth the price. But I spent enough hours with 2K10 that i cannot begrudge them the price the put on it. Yeah, I wish it had been better. But I wish darn near every single game I buy would be better.

            And if it is not worth $60 to you, that's cool, too. But it is kind of silly slam on 2K that they have the audacity to sell the game for $60. If it is not worth it, believe me, you will find it for less later. And if that is the case, I doubt waiting a month or two is going to kill you.

            Apparently, not only is 2K supposed to release more info, they are also not supposed to tell us the game is any good. And this is why gamers are a waste of time to listen to.

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            • rudyjuly2
              Cade Cunningham
              • Aug 2002
              • 14815

              #36
              Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

              You can buy pre-order the game at Amazon right now and get a $10 credit on a future video game. That's less than $60 right there.

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              • JayhawkerStL
                Banned
                • Apr 2004
                • 3644

                #37
                Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                You can buy pre-order the game at Amazon right now and get a $10 credit on a future video game. That's less than $60 right there.
                That's not bad. I'm in for a day one purchase regardless.

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                • dodgerblue
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1239

                  #38
                  Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  I
                  Hopefully this year's title will be worth it, but I have a feeling next year they're going to be noting some more improvements that they felt weren't right about this year's game, even though they completely ignored or falsified us about them this year.
                  Yes it seems as though 2k promotes each game in the series like it's all that and then the next year admits that it wasn't but this year it is. At some point it's hard to buy what they are selling.
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                  • cadarn
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 31

                    #39
                    Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                    I'm actually considering 2k11 after a good experience with NBA 2k11. Not that the games are too similar, but I loved the NBA franchise mode, trade options, trade searches, etc. Just wondering how the last mlb trade modes functioned.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42520

                      #40
                      Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                      Originally posted by Jayhawker
                      Apparently, not only is 2K supposed to release more info, they are also not supposed to tell us the game is any good. And this is why gamers are a waste of time to listen to.
                      I hope that's not what it sounded like I was saying, I just know 2K tends to ignore and deflect negativity when it's presented to them. I don't mean people complaining about things, I mean things that they understand are a flaw they weren't able to correct.

                      And "gamers" are their customers. Ignore them enough and you'll start seeing things not going their way on the sales end. Fielding is not a small issue like sock colors, everyone can see the issues with it and how it hasn't been representative of the MLB the last two years. It was a necessity that they improved on it. This isn't me whining, this is indeed what it is unfortunately.
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                      • jeffy777
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3325

                        #41
                        Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                        I think VC has done a pretty good job of dealing with the issues. Last year for instance, we complained about the check swing issue....then they fixed it in the first patch....I really doubt they would have added it in if there hadn't been such an uproar. Now this year they've focused on fixing and improving things that we all complained about: lack of errors, auto fielding, pitching being too easy etc.....even the number sizes on the jerseys, lol.

                        It's pretty obvious to me that VC is listening and then adjusting accordingly.

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                        • inkcil
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5253

                          #42
                          Re: MLB 2K11 Preview GameZone

                          Originally posted by dodgerblue
                          Yes it seems as though 2k promotes each game in the series like it's all that and then the next year admits that it wasn't but this year it is. At some point it's hard to buy what they are selling.
                          Agreed...unfortunately 2k has set a consistent precedence that does not encourage me to give them the benefit of the doubt this year. Hopefully a Valentine's demo will shed light to the horrors (or pleasures) ahead.
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                          • LastActionHero
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2453

                            #43
                            Originally posted by jeffy777
                            I think VC has done a pretty good job of dealing with the issues. Last year for instance, we complained about the check swing issue....then they fixed it in the first patch....I really doubt they would have added it in if there hadn't been such an uproar. Now this year they've focused on fixing and improving things that we all complained about: lack of errors, auto fielding, pitching being too easy etc.....even the number sizes on the jerseys, lol.

                            It's pretty obvious to me that VC is listening and then adjusting accordingly.
                            Well to me that sounds as if they have no clue.

                            Wanting to release a baseball game in 2010(!) without a check swing option is ridiculous if you ask me.
                            And then only implementing it after the community complained about it is embarrassing.
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