MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

[Giants4Natic]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

Not for people to say, but for 2K to see and fix.

Yea true, because this was a known issue in the 09 version as well

[Redemption]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

its all good. I myself haven't experienced it, but theres been at least a half dozen people who have reported it, so I dont doubt it exists.

[mva5580]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I've played both demos, my thoughts on 2K specifically are:

+ I prefer the hitting, pitching, and throwing analog controls of 2K. Just feels more natural to me.
+ I love all of the stats 2K throws at you. Most baseball fans are probably stat junkies, so this is a really big plus and great for them to have.
+ The fielding is most definitely improved over 2K10, which was drastically needed

- The framerate just doesn't feel as steady as it should be. It's not horrible, it's not gamebreaking, but it just doesn't feel as smooth as the other game. Hopefully the PC version doesn't have this issue, which I would expect it not to.
- Too bad that there weren't any announcers in the demo, just to have a comparison. But if it's at least as good as 2K10, they'll be fine.
- The graphics are again, not horrible, but not as good as the other game. Once again though I expect the PC version to look better, and I would imagine it won't be as much of an issue there.

I was going to get The Show for PS3, but I've decided instead to get 2K11 on the PC. 1) The mods of PC always increase the quality of the game, 2) It's half the price, and 3) 2K11 really is a comparable game at this point. I understand all of the "little things" that The Show does amazingly well, but really at some point those just aren't a big deal to me. The game of 2K is definitely fun to play, and that's what matters. So that's what I'll be going with this year.

[DickDalewood]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

Man, I wish I saw what some of you PS3 guys were seeing, as I was REALLY pulling for 2K this year... but this darn game just looks downright awful to me, and definitely like a step back from last years, which I thought looked pretty good! Even the menus have a somewhat low-textured look to them. This just makes me sad

I'll just have to wait and see on the final retail reviews/impressions I guess. The good news though, is the gameplay has definitely been improved, so for you 360 guys, where it sounds like the graphics definitely look better, you should have a VERY solid game on your hands.

[MukaMuka]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

change the difficulty in your profile to hard... that'll kill any automatic feeling you've been seeing. And it will make you wish it was back in there

nothing is more frustrating than having your guy stand there like a statue as you delay a second to figure out which guy you're controlling, only to let a ball that should have been an out end up a hit.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will give that a shot, although to be honest at this point I don't know if the automatic feeling is a blessing or a curse. Like I said, the balls are usually hit so hard and the infield in this game feels so small, I don't know if I can actually field those hot shots if it is not automatic, lol

[Shakedowncapo]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I posted that on the previous page and nobody has said a word about it and I put a screen shot of the box score to prove it

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[Giants4Natic]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

resized

Thank You for doing that man. I have no clue how it was so darn big before

[hitstreak13]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

Not for people to say, but for 2K to see and fix.

No, it is for us to say AND for them to see and correct. We are "their" customers and we have every god given American right to express any legitimate concerns that we may have. For a $60 game, they better at least stop and listen.

Also, I'm with Dickdalewood. I am extremely dissapointed with the demo on the PS3. I don't have an xbox, so I'm sure if its good there, but they took a major step back IMO. I will still give it a rent first and see how the final build looks.

[nemesis04]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I walked away with mixed feelings from this demo. There were moments of "hey this is nice" to "ughh WTF"! Overall there is definitely improvement but from what was described in the developer blogs I am not particularly seeing at the moment. This game is definitely going to need some slider love as it seems out of balance at times.

The good, the bad, the ugly:

The Good:

-I played the demo on the 360 and thought the color palette was significantly improved over last year.

-I like the graphical representation on the overlays in the opening scenes.

-Animations seemed to be a little more fluid especially during fielding but at times there was also a disconnect.

-I liked the delay in revealing the landing spot for fly-balls based on ratings.

-Pitching still felt good but untouched (slider wise) it is still too easy to paint.

-They have some sweet break-up plays at second base. They were believable when they occurred.

-The differentiation in bats sounds seems to be improved as different grades of contact gave off the appropriate sound.

-I have a love hate relationship with this post hitting cam. I like it on the infield plays but don't really enjoy it on the outfield plays as you feel too far removed. On several hits in the outfield I could not see the ball so it was hard to focus on what was actually happening. I like the concept but not sure how to make it better.

The Bad (Not necessarily terrible):

-Bunt physics are bad as the ball takes some weird trajectories off the bat. Also bunted balls seem to be hit too hard overall.

-The ground ball friction seems to be too much especially in the outfield. It appears to be suffering from Show-itis when they had it a few years back where a ground ball would die in the middle of the grass never reaching the wall in a lot of situations.

-Too many line drive outs in the infield. Hopefully some tuning can be address this but it became redundant.

-While fielding showed signs of improvement the animations chosen for certain throws were not warranted for the situation. On routine grounders fielders were doing these acrobatic fielding animations which were over the top for the situation.

-Something that was prevalent in 10 was how fielders covered when a play is unfolding. The pitcher is probably the worst culprit as he seems to be all over the place except for where he is supposed to be with backing up a play.

-Post fielding animations seemed to be unfinished. Fielders will throw the ball, act naturally and then automatically stop like they are unplugged. It really gives you a disconnect from the action.

-The pace of the fielding seems to have a little stuck in the mud feeling. I mean its moving but seems to develop slow. Also the throws seem to be slow and a little floaty. The only one who seems to have some oomph on their throw is the catcher throwing the ball back to the pitcher.

-I am still perplexed by this opposite field HR dilemma. I can rip and pull the ball with ease but when it comes to a home run the closest I have come to pulling the ball is center field. All the others were opposite field. Seems odd to me especially since they made special mention of it being addressed. Also, I had no suspenseful HR's, all were no doubter's. I noticed with the no doubters the outfielders don't move they just swivel in place which looks really bad.

-The throwing meter seems a little pedestrian to me. I am sure we can up the difficulty on it but feels far too simple and a little boring. On a positive note it does seem responsive and reacts according to your input.

-I know people have mentioned about liking the ball physics/ hit variety in this game but I just don't see it. With some at bats visually I saw what was going to be a certain type hit but behind the scenes it appeared like the hit was being forced to do something else. I did not walk away impressed on this front.

-No practice swing? Or is there a certain button other then the stick?

The Ugly:

I don't have anything major that is truly horrendous. The only thing I would mention is that the the ball icon/pitch break indicator is grossly out of proportion with the rest of the game. I am sure turning it off solves that problem!


Even though my "bad" list is a little lengthy I walked away feeling there were some positive strides made in the game. It still needs work as far as overall game flow goes as it is a little rough around the edges at times. Overall there will be two viable choices this year for a baseball game as each has something different to offer with each one having its own interpretation of the sport.

[Giants4Natic]

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No, it is for us to say AND for them to see and correct. We are "their" customers and we have every god given American right to express any legitimate concerns that we may have. For a $60 game, they better at least stop and listen.

Also, I'm with Dickdalewood. I am extremely dissapointed with the demo on the PS3. I don't have an xbox, so I'm sure if its good there, but they took a major step back IMO. I will still give it a rent first and see how the final build looks.

Why you salty with Pete, he is saying that we are posting this so 2K can see to fix it. The other guy was saying that it was already posted and what do we expect others to say.

It better be fixed because it was an issue 2 years ago as well

[Ltrain44]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I know a lot of people seem to judge the whole game based on a demo from who knows what earlier build of this game. Last year's demo had all kinds of issues but the retail version was A LOT better. I hope people just realize that this is a DEMO and that some of the problems they are seeing will not be in the full game.

[pietasterp]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I echo the mixed feelings others have mentioned after a few games last night. The game is overall fun, which is the most important thing. Random thoughts in no particular order:

- My pitcher made a very awkward, behind-the-back shovel catch on a routine infield fly because I nudged him over a bit trying to gauge where the ball was gonna land. Didn't like that so much.

- The game (demo) didn't seem to necessarily switch you to the fielder most in-position to make a play after the opposition hits the ball; I felt like the computer-controlled guys were always the ones with the best opportunity to make a play, which made it seem more like observing than playing.

- Graphics are meh, but that's okay if the rest of the game is fun

- The game seems really herky-jerky; nothing is smooth, the transitions between running/stopping, stopping/throwing, throwing/relaxing are really noticeable and seem very last-last-gen

- I like the pitching, but I don't like pitches where you have to make a half-circle or more...it just seems like too long of a motion to have to make to throw a pitch, and half the time it seems like I'm completing said motion after the ball has already left the pitcher's hand. I feel like every pitch should either be a up/down or down/up combo, side-side combo (insert Karate Kid joke here), or else quarter-circle at most (to simulate wrist rotation)....anything else just seems to me to be excessive motion just to throw a darn pitch.

- Can't settle on whether I like using the analog or face buttons for base throws....not sure about the throw meter either (whether it's a worthwhile addition or not)

- I can't hit water from a boat when batting...I wish the greyed-out "strike zone" in the batter's cam wasn't there - takes me away from focusing on the pitch for some reason. I assume that's something that can be turned off in the retail version (?)

- Can't get a feel for the fielding yet, but it's been a while since I played a lot of videogame (or real) baseball, so that will I'm sure just take some time

- Hit a hard liner up the middle and the pitcher flinched out of the way before it nailed him in the legs...he scrambled to his feet and made a play, just nipping me at first base. Cool.

- Struck out to end the game (?), but then it went into the fielding view and I realized the catcher dropped the ball, so I was hauling arse down the first-base line and actually beat out the throw to be safe at first. Really cool (provided it doesn't happen too much). Bad news? I struck out with the next batter at the plate, so the CPU got 4 strikeouts in an inning on me...

I think the game is pretty fun on the whole (caveat: based on the 3-inning demo); I'll still wait to see what people think a few weeks in, though. I don't really get into a baseball mood until spring anyway...

[hitstreak13]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

Why you salty with Pete, he is saying that we are posting this so 2K can see to fix it. The other guy was saying that it was already posted and what do we expect others to say.

It better be fixed because it was an issue 2 years ago as well

I see what you are saying, but I'm not salty with anyone here at OS. I just thought for a second that he meant that it was not our duty to say anything, but to let the devs simply see it for themselves and correct it (in which I wouldn't agree with).

I didn't mean to take a stab at him like that because that was not my intent. I would have written the same thing regardless of who wrote it. It was a simple misunderstanding, thats all.

But in that case, if it was an issue 2 years ago, there is absolutely no excuse for the them not to fix it.

[Pared]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

Why you salty with Pete, he is saying that we are posting this so 2K can see to fix it. The other guy was saying that it was already posted and what do we expect others to say.

It better be fixed because it was an issue 2 years ago as well

You guys have rehashed it enough. Let's get back to the impressions please.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: MLB 2K11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS3/360)

I see what you are saying, but I'm not salty with anyone here at OS. I just thought for a second that he meant that it was not our duty to say anything, but to let the devs simply see it for themselves and correct it (in which I wouldn't agree with).

I didn't mean to take a stab at him like that because that was not my intent. I would have written the same thing regardless of who wrote it. It was a simple misunderstanding, thats all.

But in that case, if it was an issue 2 years ago, there is absolutely no excuse for the them not to fix it.

Is cool. I am sure it will not be in the final product and some of the quirks will be fixed. That is the good thing about the demo that we can tell them what needs fixing

You know that the patch will be handed out within the first month of release.

The game has many good things about it, but the bad things hamper the experience for sure and will not sustain all year if they are not fixed