Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

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  • msmy26
    Rookie
    • Nov 2009
    • 45

    #1

    Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

    If anyone could answer this that would be great! It sucks that the guys who have worked hard on opening day rosters and lineups work is waisted when you load up a franchise and the CPU completely jacks up the lineups and rotations, I mean they have Jeter batting 8th for goodness sake!
  • peigone
    Banned
    • Jun 2010
    • 1050

    #2
    Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

    Control all teams and the opening day lineups should be fine. The problem though is that the CPU will reorder lineups whenever any lineup changes are made -- edits, injuries, etc. That includes user lineups -- every time I edit my team for example, I have to reorder my batting lineups and pitching rotation. So no, I don't think there's any way to avoid the issue, not for long anyway.

    The one and only fix that I know of is to individually edit players so that their ratings/abilities match up with whatever programming logic the game uses to fix lineup order. But that would require quite a bit of tweaking and testing, using the auto-order feature to see how the CPU is reordering the lineups each time you make a few edits.
    Last edited by peigone; 04-03-2011, 01:04 PM.

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    • tinpanalley
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 3401

      #3
      Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

      But even with controlling all the teams, and even if you only run a season with no 40-man rosters, I think the moment the franchise begins, the CPU takes all your lineups and does them again with its own logic, doesn't it?

      Does making sure all rosters have only 25 men before starting make a difference?

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      • peigone
        Banned
        • Jun 2010
        • 1050

        #4
        Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

        Originally posted by tinpanalley
        But even with controlling all the teams, and even if you only run a season with no 40-man rosters, I think the moment the franchise begins, the CPU takes all your lineups and does them again with its own logic, doesn't it?
        Didn't realize that, same issue I have with PES 2011. So the one solution it seems is to controll all 30 teams, let the CPU run the other teams' business, and manually reorder those teams' lineups whenever the CPU auto-adjusts them.
        Last edited by peigone; 04-04-2011, 03:41 AM.

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        • msmy26
          Rookie
          • Nov 2009
          • 45

          #5
          Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

          Originally posted by peigone
          Didn't realize that, same issue I have with PES 2011. So the one solution it seems is to controll all 30 teams, let the CPU run the other teams' business, and manually reorder those teams' lineups whenever the CPU auto-adjusts them.
          I just don't get why they don't give you an option to edit all parts of the cpu's teams without having to control all 30 teams. It's the same in NBA2K! On the old PS2 etc you used to be able to but now on MLB2k11 and NBA2k you start a franchise and you have players like Johan Santana and Stephen Strasburg who are out for long periods playing and you can't do anything about it except control all 30 teams!

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          • peigone
            Banned
            • Jun 2010
            • 1050

            #6
            Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

            Originally posted by msmy26
            I just don't get why they don't give you an option to edit all parts of the cpu's teams without having to control all 30 teams. It's the same in NBA2K! On the old PS2 etc you used to be able to but now on MLB2k11 and NBA2k you start a franchise and you have players like Johan Santana and Stephen Strasburg who are out for long periods playing and you can't do anything about it except control all 30 teams!
            In all fairness, very few sports games have ever let you edit CPU teams' players, rosters, etc. while playing franchise and controlling only one team. It's a bonus if a game allows you to do that.

            Seems to me that a fair and decent workaround is to control all teams, set the other 29 teams to CPU-controlled GM, and then reorder their lineups if and when necessary. At least we have the option to do that, unlike most games as I said.

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            • tinpanalley
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 3401

              #7
              Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

              Honestly guys, I know this is something that a lot of people don't like doing, but one option I've done for years is removing all injuries and CPU controlled transactions and controlling all teams. If mimicking real life rosters is what you like, that's the only way to do it. I understand some people like the fantasy element of having injuries in the game and trades and so on but you won't get the level of control you want in the league. I have never played a sports video game that handled injuries, call ups, or trades realistically. Maybe NFL 2K5 but even then it had problems. The engines are made to be "fun" not for sports realism.

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              • p00p1
                Pro
                • Aug 2002
                • 987

                #8
                Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                Originally posted by tinpanalley
                Honestly guys, I know this is something that a lot of people don't like doing, but one option I've done for years is removing all injuries and CPU controlled transactions and controlling all teams. If mimicking real life rosters is what you like, that's the only way to do it. I understand some people like the fantasy element of having injuries in the game and trades and so on but you won't get the level of control you want in the league. I have never played a sports video game that handled injuries, call ups, or trades realistically. Maybe NFL 2K5 but even then it had problems. The engines are made to be "fun" not for sports realism.
                The problem is that once the season starts, you will have to go through all 30 teams and undo the mess the cpu makes at the start of the season.

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                • peigone
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1050

                  #9
                  Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                  I don't play franchise but I thought I'd try an experiement to see what the fix options are. So:

                  1. I started a franchise and chose to control all teams.
                  2. I let the CPU auto-manage all teams except mine.
                  3. I simmed thru pre-season to the first day of the season -- my Tigers versus the Yankees.
                  4. Went into the Manage option and set the Yankees lineup to the proper order.
                  5. Played the game against the Yankees, and sure enough they had the correct lineup.

                  And #6 and most important.... Played them the following day, and they still had the correct lineup for game 2 of the series.

                  The CPU resetting lineups is not an issue at all for anyone who cares to spend 1-2 minutes setting CPU team lineups before they play their next series. A minor annoyance for what apparently is a solid fix for the issue.

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                  • p00p1
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 987

                    #10
                    Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                    Or they could add an option to stop the CPU from auto correcting lineups.

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                    • peigone
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1050

                      #11
                      Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                      Originally posted by p00p1
                      Or they could add an option to stop the CPU from auto correcting lineups.
                      Well, I suppose you can wait for 2K14 or whenever they decide to add that. Or you can do what I did and fix the problem now, your choice. :wink:

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                      • King Gro23
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2548

                        #12
                        Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                        Okay hopefully I don't get in trouble for this because it is not my intention.
                        The topic is how to avoid the CPU shuffling their lineups in franchise.
                        Another baseball game has this same problem and they have came up with solutions in another forum here. Here are some solutions to try in your franchise posted by Knight165 himself:

                        Here is how to keep the CPU from shuffling your lineups
                        There are 3 ways with using 30 team control.
                        First...you must create a profile that gives the lineups/rotations MANUAL for any team you want lineups to be under your control. - We don't have to do this for XBOX 360

                        1.- Use a roster that has only 25 players on the 40 man roster. Hustlin' Owl has created one and the link is above...With this....if you use only 1 team control......you are locked into having the CPU teams having no more than 25 men on the 40 man roster. If you use 30 team control at any time AFTER spring training is over...you can add the 15 players to the 40 man roster and the CPU will not juggle lineups/rotations. In all cases....the CPU will still sub in lineups for fatigue

                        2.-Using a roster with the 40 man roster full....play/sim Spring Training until the day BEFORE the final day of ST.....go through each team and manually send down 15 players(make sure none are in any lineups/rotation) for the CPU teams.....No need to take them off the 40 man roster. The lineups will remain intact when going into the season now.

                        3.-The obvious....wait until DAY 1 of the regular season and set the CPU team lineups/rotations....they will stay and only be changed for fatigue.....be aware...you will have to reset them due to injuries for the CPU teams...
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                        • peigone
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1050

                          #13
                          Re: Is there anyway around the CPU resetting the lineups when u start a franchise???

                          Originally posted by King Gro23
                          wait until DAY 1 of the regular season and set the CPU team lineups/rotations....they will stay and only be changed for fatigue.....be aware...you will have to reset them due to injuries for the CPU teams...
                          Yes, that's what I discovered and posted on page 1. Change the CPU lineup once when you first play a team, and it will stay like that unless there are injuries, etc. Not a huge problem, just takes a bit of lineup tweaking once in a while. Which is why controlling all teams is necessary.
                          Last edited by peigone; 04-11-2011, 11:15 AM.

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