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  • mwjr
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 1393

    #1

    Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

    I usually find myself waiting too long or jumping too soon in warming up my pitchers. And when I do I go back and forth to the bullpen to check my reliever's status almost every pitch. So a few questions...

    1. Has anyone figured out how long it takes to warm up a pitcher?
    2. What are your strategies? Warm them up half inning before?
    3. How long before they start to lose their energy warming up?
    4. Has anyone determined any harm if you sit a guy down after you've started warming him up? I know in real life managers frown on that sort of thing.
  • peigone
    Banned
    • Jun 2010
    • 1050

    #2
    Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

    Seriously, I don't think warming them up makes any difference at all. I've been running some pitching tests, and I see no difference when I just bring a reliever in cold.

    Maybe more telling: I lowered CPU Stamina ratings to see what the CPU does when its starter runs out of gas in the 3rd inning. The answer: nothing. It just allows the guy to continue pitching, inning after inning, on 0 energy. Apparently it makes no difference whatsoever how warm, cold or full of energy the pitcher is. I certainly never see any difference in the CPU's ability to get the ball over the plate. He doesn't start throwing wild, for example.
    Last edited by peigone; 04-05-2011, 12:07 PM.

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    • KraZe
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 79

      #3
      Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

      What about injuries? That's the one major thing that would pop into my head about a risk of bringing in a cold pitcher... I normally play My Player mode, so I wouldn't know for sure if it affects it or not.

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      • peigone
        Banned
        • Jun 2010
        • 1050

        #4
        Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

        Originally posted by KraZe
        What about injuries? That's the one major thing that would pop into my head about a risk of bringing in a cold pitcher.
        That could play into it. I always have injuries set to off so I don't know.

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        • mwjr
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 1393

          #5
          Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

          Originally posted by peigone
          Seriously, I don't think warming them up makes any difference at all. I've been running some pitching tests, and I see no difference when I just bring a reliever in cold.
          Hmmm. Might have to try this out and see.

          Maybe a stupid question, but do you have Active Bullpen on?

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          • peigone
            Banned
            • Jun 2010
            • 1050

            #6
            Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

            Originally posted by mwjr
            do you have Active Bullpen on?
            No. Also, I use classic pitching, and maybe you'll see a greater loss of control etc. with the other style. But I sure don't have a problem throwing strikes when I bring a pitcher in cold.

            The one thing that's difficult to guage is if the CPU is hitting my pitcher more and harder, due to the fact that he's supposedly "cold." But again, from what I've seen, I don't see any increase in the CPU's ability to hit the ball in those instances.

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            • peigone
              Banned
              • Jun 2010
              • 1050

              #7
              Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

              Here's a good find: I just played another few innings against the CPU starter with edited stamina, and I kept track as he tired out over a couple of innings. His pitch speeds dropped as his energy depleted. He started out throwing 90 mph fastballs and 82 mph sliders. By the time he hit 0 energy, his fastball was coming in at 83 mph and his slider at 77 mph.

              So it could well be that warming your pitcher up properly insures he's going to be hitting the high end of his pitch speeds when he enters the game. May even affect pitch movement, I don't know as I wasn't watching for that (hard to gauge as well with CPU pitchers).
              Last edited by peigone; 04-05-2011, 01:08 PM.

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              • Sabo's corked Bat
                Banned
                • Mar 2011
                • 321

                #8
                Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

                until they are green, although its not needed. Must be a bug, since warming them up does absolutely nothing.

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                • mwjr
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1393

                  #9
                  Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

                  Originally posted by peigone
                  No.
                  That's probably why you're not seeing any difference. Unless it is indeed broken then bringing in a pitcher who isn't properly warmed up with Active Bullpen 'on' should result in the pitcher being all over the place.

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                  • peigone
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1050

                    #10
                    Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

                    Originally posted by mwjr
                    That's probably why you're not seeing any difference. Unless it is indeed broken then bringing in a pitcher who isn't properly warmed up with Active Bullpen 'on' should result in the pitcher being all over the place.
                    That makes sense.

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                    • School Yard Pro
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

                      I make the call to the pen to start warming up. Visit the mound for composure and pitch to that batter. By the end of that at bat the relief pitcher should be ready

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                      • Sabo's corked Bat
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 321

                        #12
                        Re: Warming Up Pitchers? How Long?

                        Its broken. Not only that, but Ive had a pinch hitter throw 4 innings of shut out baseball on All Pro. Fred Lewis was throwing 74 MPH 4 seamers that no one could hit apparantly.

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                        • Watson
                          Burrow Club
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27013

                          #13
                          I warm them up before the first AB of the inning, then they're always ready by the time the inning is over.
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                          • N51_rob
                            Faceuary!
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 14805

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mwjr
                            I usually find myself waiting too long or jumping too soon in warming up my pitchers. And when I do I go back and forth to the bullpen to check my reliever's status almost every pitch. So a few questions...

                            1. Has anyone figured out how long it takes to warm up a pitcher?
                            It takes about 4 outs/batters to have a pitcher fully warmed up. 3 outs/batters should have them at about 75% good enough to pitch in the game but not 100%.

                            Hope thy helps a little.

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