Double play glitch on bunts.

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  • christianc5692
    Rookie
    • Aug 2010
    • 71

    #1

    Double play glitch on bunts.

    I don't know if anyone else has noticed this glitch. It has never happened to me I have only done it in franchise. But if your opponent bunts to move the runner up to second and you throw that man out at second and throw it back to first base for a double play you will get a double play even if that runner clearly runs through the bag. If the batter runs through first base and you throw it to first for the double play the first basemen will tag out the man on first base giving a double play.
    Last edited by christianc5692; 06-06-2011, 12:40 AM.
  • Neolithic
    Pro
    • Apr 2003
    • 699

    #2
    Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

    I had this happen today for the first time.

    the only way I rationalize it to say that he didn't beat out the throw even if what transpires on the screen says he did.
    Last edited by Neolithic; 06-06-2011, 12:58 AM.
    You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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    • christianc5692
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 71

      #3
      Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

      Im pretty sure once cheesers figure out about this they will quickly take advantage.

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      • Hal Fowler
        Banned
        • Apr 2011
        • 150

        #4
        Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

        Originally posted by christianc5692
        Im pretty sure once cheesers figure out about this they will quickly take advantage.
        There is nothing to take advantage of. It is related to baserunner aggression. Since I lowered mine, this has never happened.

        What is happening is that AI runners are taking off for second. This happened to me the first day of the patch, and never again since.

        Explain to me how a cheeser can take advantage of this?

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        • peigone
          Banned
          • Jun 2010
          • 1050

          #5
          Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

          Originally posted by Hal Fowler
          There is nothing to take advantage of. It is related to baserunner aggression.
          I don't see how bunting, and the runner on 1st taking off on a bunt, has anything to do with player aggression. The runner on 1st HAS to run on a bunt, regardless of his aggression rating. The issue/glitch here seems to be the hitter is called out at 1st even when clearly safe. Again, nothing to do with player aggression from the sounds of it.
          Last edited by peigone; 06-06-2011, 09:14 AM.

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          • christianc5692
            Rookie
            • Aug 2010
            • 71

            #6
            Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

            The runner is NOT trying to go towards second. Who would try and get a double on a bunt anyway unless there was an error. When you throw the man out at second and throw to first, even if the umpire says safe, the guy at first base will just tag the runner and he will be out. You can tell by the animation that he wasn't running towards second. He runs straight down the first base line and if he runs through he bag like 100% of base runners do on first base he will get tagged out.

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            • cardswin2006
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 328

              #7
              Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

              Originally posted by peigone
              I don't see how bunting, and the runner on 1st taking off on a bunt, has anything to do with player aggression. The runner on 1st HAS to run on a bunt, regardless of his aggression rating. The issue/glitch here seems to be the hitter is called out at 1st even when clearly safe. Again, nothing to do with player aggression from the sounds of it.
              I think what he was referring to was a lot of us turned baserunning aggression way up before the patch, and now after the patch, if you haven't changed the aggression slider, runners are literally running into outs. Not sure that's what was going on here (the previous post seems to imply that it is not), but that was a known issue until we all changed our sliders back towards normal.

              I'm going to have to try this next time and see what happens.

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              • Hal Fowler
                Banned
                • Apr 2011
                • 150

                #8
                Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                It's not related the bunt at all. It is a glitch that in some double plays, the batter is tagged out by the 1st baseman after beating the the throw. I've seen it happen.

                But it is related to the batter turning to second and getting tagged out instantly.

                It's only a theory that it is related to the CPU runner aggression. I had it set at 90 or 100 at the time. Once I dropped to 60, I have never seen it happen a gain.

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                • christianc5692
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 71

                  #9
                  Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                  The runner slows up after running through first and not even trying to go to second. But when you throw to first he makes a glitch move and turns toward second and he gets tagged out.

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                  • peigone
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1050

                    #10
                    Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                    Originally posted by Hal Fowler
                    But it is related to the batter turning to second and getting tagged out instantly.
                    Okay, I get it now, thanks.

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                    • cardswin2006
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 328

                      #11
                      Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                      Speaking of baserunner aggression, I had an instance the other day, 2nd and 3rd, nobody out and the CPU grounded the ball to the 2nd baseman playing at normal depth. Neither runners advanced. Next batter hits a grounder up the middle, also grabbed by the 2B ranging to his right, and again...the runners don't advance. Next batter flies out and I get out of the inning without giving up a run.

                      Then I have the complete opposite happen. Jose Reyes hits a single to lead off a game and he tries to stretch a clear single into a double. Out by a mile. Okay, so I guess that could happen. Next time up he gets on again. Single hit right at my LF and he tries to go 1st to 3rd. Out by a mile. Third or Fourth time up (can't remember) he gets on again. This time he's thrown out trying to score at home. He was just barely at third as my SS cut off the ball and he rounds to try to score. Out by a mile.



                      This is with baserunning aggression at 60.

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                      • Hal Fowler
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 150

                        #12
                        Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                        Originally posted by cardswin2006
                        Speaking of baserunner aggression, I had an instance the other day, 2nd and 3rd, nobody out and the CPU grounded the ball to the 2nd baseman playing at normal depth. Neither runners advanced. Next batter hits a grounder up the middle, also grabbed by the 2B ranging to his right, and again...the runners don't advance. Next batter flies out and I get out of the inning without giving up a run.

                        Then I have the complete opposite happen. Jose Reyes hits a single to lead off a game and he tries to stretch a clear single into a double. Out by a mile. Okay, so I guess that could happen. Next time up he gets on again. Single hit right at my LF and he tries to go 1st to 3rd. Out by a mile. Third or Fourth time up (can't remember) he gets on again. This time he's thrown out trying to score at home. He was just barely at third as my SS cut off the ball and he rounds to try to score. Out by a mile.



                        This is with baserunning aggression at 60.
                        Maybe it needs to be 50. Of the three main slider sets being discussed in the sliders forum, they have them set at 70, 60, and 50.

                        Also, different runners will have different aggression. I suspect that the thrown speed slider, as well as the arm strength of the 2B in involved are both factored into the equation on whether to send a runner home.

                        Reyes making really poor decisions does seem to be a reflection of too much runner aggression, though.

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                        • kpkpkp
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1733

                          #13
                          Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                          Wait wait...

                          Is OP saying that the runner (who bunted) safely over runs 1st but is still tagged out?

                          That is to say; on double plays the game does not recognize that its safe to over run 1st?

                          Or

                          Is OP saying the the runner (who bunted) suddenly decides to take off for 2nd. Which would be adsurd... who runs for 2nd on a bunt?

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #14
                            Re: Double play glitch on bunts.

                            Bug/Glitch thread....locked

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