Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Gameplay

[pistolpete]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

no either you go overtime or frankly you can't count

4 quarters * 12 mins / quarter = 48 minutes. I double checked and my units cancel too.

If you've managed to bend time perhaps you should be doing something other than playing video games.

[Pared]

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I main point about posting the numbers, was show that because of poor sales and having a yearly game cycle, funding for baseball games makes it hard to delevop a solid bug free game. They have to make small improvements over time.

IMO don't give a million for a perfect game and use that million to spend creating and delevoping the game.

Doesn't work that way - that's not how sponsorship works.

[mkharsh33]

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I've seen similar numbers regarding interest in baseball going down.
Registration is down across the US. I think in today's age of ADD, OCD, ADHD, NintendoDS, most kids today find it boring. Too much standing around, not enough physical contact, not as cool as football or basketball or even hockey, maybe even too hard.

I'd love to know why the numbers are down with African-American's. I don't think there's a shortage of super-star players for young black kids to look up to.

I didn't mean to take this thread offroad, but this I'm very interested in this topic.
But maybe it helps explain why baseball games sell only slightly better than hockey games.
Back in the day, even a Canadian like me couldn't wait to get my hands on the latest baseball game.
Baseball Simulator 2000 was the poop man!

I can't find it, but CC Sabathia gave an interview this past year where he spoke of his concern about this. He's trying to be an ambassador with the NY inner city youth...

[elimack]

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Why so many complaints about the hitting system being based on timing? Is this not what it's based on in real life?

There are tons of hitters able to determine a pitch's location after it leaves the pitchers hand, but there aren't many that can dictate ball placement after contact.

The difference between a Tony Gwynn, and say a Ryan Howard is T.G. will easily place a ball thrown on the outer half of of the plate in the opposite field by delaying start of his swing. Gwynn is also able to pull this same pitch when desired to advance a runner by speeding up the timing of his swing.

Where Howard (just looking to contact the ball), will 8 out of 10 times pull the same outside pitch (all do to poor timing of course), leading to a weakly hit ground ball to the first base side of second base. *Hence the shift defenses put on when he's at bat.

Maybe I'm just interpreting this complaint wrong, but if not 2k's timing based system, if respected in game, simulates the real thing quite nicely.

[Pared]

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The game doesn't account for location enough IMO. Timing is one thing - location is another.

If baseball were as simple as timing only it wouldn't be the sport it is.

[DJ]

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The game doesn't account for location enough IMO. Timing is one thing - location is another.

If baseball were as simple as timing only it wouldn't be the sport it is.

How would you say that 2K's Timing system is different from The Show? Is The Show more based on a player's rating in terms of where the bat gets placed when you press the button to swing?

I agree that baseball is much more than timing only, but I think for gamers, there's a segment out there that doesn't want to mess with zone hitting. They just want to swing and make contact. I think there's a way to do that and still give the game a SIM feel, but it needs to be ratings-driven, similar to what 2K does in its NBA games with Real FG%.

[mkharsh33]

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The problem with the "location" of 2K11 is the way the pitches move in an unrealistic fashion. Tone down the pitch movement and the game becomes too easy...Ratchet up the pitch movement and you'll never hit a curveball or slider to save your life. They still haven't found that balance yet...

[peigone]

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Why so many complaints about the hitting system being based on timing? Is this not what it's based on in real life?

I can tell you don't work as a real estate agent.

Location, location, location.

[peigone]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

Tone down the pitch movement and the game becomes too easy...Ratchet up the pitch movement and you'll never hit a curveball or slider to save your life. They still haven't found that balance yet...

But you just pointed out the answer yourself -- wouldn't finding that balance be called "adjusting the silders"?

[bosnian19]

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4 quarters * 12 mins / quarter = 48 minutes. I double checked and my units cancel too.

If you've managed to bend time perhaps you should be doing something other than playing video games.

i play 5 min quarters...

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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What exactly is "zone hitting"? I remember for a long time baseball games made you move a cursor to the location of the pitch to determine the location of your swing and the size of your cursor varied by how good of a contact hitter you were. I don't dig that at all simply because that doesn't replicate the split second reaction to where a pitch is really going. It's much tougher to track a pitch with your fingers than it is with your eyes. If by zone hitting, you just mean aiming the stick in the relative direction of the pitch location (so pushing the stick up and to the right if the pitch is high and to the right), then that's fine with me.

[Pared]

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How would you say that 2K's Timing system is different from The Show? Is The Show more based on a player's rating in terms of where the bat gets placed when you press the button to swing?

I agree that baseball is much more than timing only, but I think for gamers, there's a segment out there that doesn't want to mess with zone hitting. They just want to swing and make contact. I think there's a way to do that and still give the game a SIM feel, but it needs to be ratings-driven, similar to what 2K does in its NBA games with Real FG%.

That's exactly how it works, with the added feature this year of having to determine where the swing placement is.

I agree you can simplify it but I don't like it being the simple b/c then users get upset when the ratings don't kick in in their favor. It sure is fun though - I really liked how that one World Series Baseball arcade game did it where you pulled a lever back and let go. BUT... that's not exactly "sim" because of it's simplicity. You need a bit of complication to provide better, more realistic results IMHO.

What exactly is "zone hitting"? I remember for a long time baseball games made you move a cursor to the location of the pitch to determine the location of your swing and the size of your cursor varied by how good of a contact hitter you were. I don't dig that at all simply because that doesn't replicate the split second reaction to where a pitch is really going. It's much tougher to track a pitch with your fingers than it is with your eyes. If by zone hitting, you just mean aiming the stick in the relative direction of the pitch location (so pushing the stick up and to the right if the pitch is high and to the right), then that's fine with me.

That's essentially the same thing. Cursor and zone hitting are about selecting where you swing your bat through the imaginary zone over the plate.

[elimack]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

I've seen similar numbers regarding interest in baseball going down.
Registration is down across the US. I think in today's age of ADD, OCD, ADHD, NintendoDS, most kids today find it boring. Too much standing around, not enough physical contact, not as cool as football or basketball or even hockey, maybe even too hard.

I'd love to know why the numbers are down with African-American's. I don't think there's a shortage of super-star players for young black kids to look up to.

I didn't mean to take this thread offroad, but this I'm very interested in this topic.
But maybe it helps explain why baseball games sell only slightly better than hockey games.
Back in the day, even a Canadian like me couldn't wait to get my hands on the latest baseball game.
Baseball Simulator 2000 was the poop man!

Not to keep the thread derailed, but this is a hatred of mine. As an African-American growing up in bad neighborhoods, baseball was never spotlighted. I played b/c I loved sports, but this put me in the minority (obviously), it's much easier to play basketball alone and/or get a basketball/football and find a park or playground to play.

Funny thing is my city is home to one of the best little leagues in america

[stlchamp10]

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Am I the only one excited about them adding necklace's in the game?

[Money99]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

Not to keep the thread derailed, but this is a hatred of mine. As an African-American growing up in bad neighborhoods, baseball was never spotlighted. I played b/c I loved sports, but this put me in the minority (obviously), it's much easier to play basketball alone and/or get a basketball/football and find a park or playground to play.

Funny thing is my city is home to one of the best little leagues in america

I don't want to derail this thread either so I started this one:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043341678

I'd love to hear your opinion as to why fewer kids are playing, especially African-American's.