My Player Pitcher Discussion

**Brother3Wright** · 03-16-2012, 02:14 PM

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My pitcher is a starter, strikeout mold. He was just called up to the majors (Indians) this year and he's starting to be a monster on the mound.

The problem I'm having is that I've had a few games where he's been untouchable, only allowing 1 HIT the entire game (note: I've only done this twice so it's not a common thing), we'll be winning 3-0. I'll enter the 9th inning and they'll comment on how amazing he's doing...then the comment that a closer is warming up in the bullpen.

I'll get two strikeouts, so now it's the 9th inning, 2 outs and BAM! I get pulled! Sim the rest of the game and we'll win by a score of 3-2.

Is this because it's his first year in the majors?! It's so frustrating to be pulled when you've only allowed 1 HIT the whole game and you've only got 1 out left to pitch a total shut out, then the closer comes in and gives up 2 RUNS. Has anyone else had this issue? Does it continue farther into your career?

**Draven1234** · 03-16-2012, 02:36 PM

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@Above, I really can't say, even though that must be frustrating. How good is the Closer on the Indians? If he is bad,that could be why. But, yeah I pity you getting pulled with 1 out left, it's very stupid. If it was a 1-Run dephisate I could say "Yeah, I can see why". Tony LaRussa didn't pull Carpenter out during the 9th inning in the NLDS now did he?

Now let me talk a bit about my Closer. My guy got asked to participate in the World Future Team. I throwed 2 scoreless perfect innings and my team beat USA 4-0, I wasn'tn used as the Closer.
Now I am called up to the PawSox and my first game I played my team was losing horribly, 16-4 I think. SoI got them out of a 9th inning jam. But ofcourse my team went on to lose. Now I am playing against the same team and they bring me in during the 5th inning! What part of "Closer" don't they understand? I unfortunately gave up 2 -Runs in that inning. Now I will have to play the next inning later. PawSox losing 6-0. Wish me luck to try and stop the opposition. I actually don't think the PawSox will use me as a Closer,unfortunately.

C'mon guys Post more Comments! I love to here peoples succes with there Pitchers!

**Draven1234** · 03-16-2012, 02:44 PM

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Heres a question for anybody that wishes to answer.
Do you think a Starting Pitcher with main Pitches that are The Knuckleball and The Fastball make them succesful? Switching between a 60 MPH Knuckleball that moves like crazy and a 90-100 MPH Fastball I would think would be succesful, I think it wuld be nasty. What do you guys think?

**Zombeels** · 03-16-2012, 04:01 PM

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I made a strikeout pitcher who plays for the Reds. His rating is 89 now, and leas season he posted a 1.85 ERA, with over 15 Ks/9.

His pitches are:

Slider (90 overall)
4SFB (85 overall)
Screwball (71 overall)
CRC (87 overall)

**Brother3Wright** · 03-17-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Draven1234

Heres a question for anybody that wishes to answer.
Do you think a Starting Pitcher with main Pitches that are The Knuckleball and The Fastball make them succesful? Switching between a 60 MPH Knuckleball that moves like crazy and a 90-100 MPH Fastball I would think would be succesful, I think it wuld be nasty. What do you guys think?

My starter that I talked about above's main pitches are 4s Fast Ball, Changeup, and Knuckle Curve. I can almost ignore any of my other pitches, just using those three drives batters crazy. Although you have to be careful with the knuckle curve, it can be really tough to control, and it's goo to use until you have a lot of movement on it.

**deknegt** · 03-17-2012, 10:09 AM

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Today I made a new pitcher, and hopefully one I can stick to for a while.
I made a right-handed submarine pitcher named Doug Williams and I stuck him on the Baltimore Orioles in the hopes of becoming that star pitcher they so desperately need.

His template is Strikeout pitcher and for starters I chose 3 pitches.
1: Fastball (61)
2: Slider (60)
3: Knuckleball (56)

I gotta say in my first starts for the Baysox I am amazed at the general effectiveness of my pitch repertoire getting a very nice 16 K's in my first 3 starts holding a 1.04 ERA.

Certainly the Knuckleball is very lovely to throw at times because there aren't many hitters around who can hit it let alone hit it with any decent contact.

It's particularly great when you first soften up the batter with the Slider and the Fastball and for that final 0-2 pitch you throw a 60-65MPH Knuckleball which either causes him to swing too early or hit it for a groundball. And of course seeing that thing jiggle around in flight is hilarious.

I am still thinking about what my next pitch will be, probably a straight up Changeup to get a decent off-speed pitch in my rep. Ideas are appreciated.

Also to Draven, A Knuckleball certainly looks like it can be a very effective Pitch in a Starters repertoire as long as you have a good control. And you need to mix up your pitches too. And it can become a liability later on in games when your pitcher gets tired. So a fourth pitch is recomended

**ROSStafarian** · 03-17-2012, 11:16 AM

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So i just got done with my first season as a S/O pitcher overall(60)and everything was going quite well up until spring training came around and i just got rocked on my first outing and well pretty much couldn't throw a strike for the better part of most innings and could never find a grove to fall into.

Im sure this isn't a rarity at all but is there anything i could do to settle down in a situation like that?

P.s has anyone seen a coach come out for a mound visit on my player?

**Brother3Wright** · 03-17-2012, 04:42 PM

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I continue to like and hate this game. I'm now in my second year with the Indians as the same pitcher I talked about above. I'm in the 9th inning of a NO HITTER! Get one out! AND I GET PULLED!

I get that maybe my stamina was dropping, but we were up 4-0 and I was just putting guys down! I had 17K's in the game already and was only 2 outs away from a perfect game! SO FRUSTRATING!

**Charles Hustle** · 03-17-2012, 05:50 PM

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Is there still the problem of covering first base too slowly, like it was in 2K11?

**Draven1234** · 03-18-2012, 06:51 AM

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My Closer is finally in the Majors with the Red Sox. Its his third year and he is only rated 64 OVR. He uses his fastball, sinker and 2-seam FB for the first 2 strikes and then my Strikeout pitch is the Slider or 12-6 Curve. My 12-6 curve is nasty. It is only rated 52 OVR and it causes it to break up and down sometimes. It catches hitters of guard because there is no control over it. My guy though is being used as a Set-Up Man and a Middle Releiver. I expect Next season I will become the Closer. He has an ERA about 2.50 which is pretty good. I hope to get the ROTY award seems it is actually only June, so I might get the award.

My Next Pitcher is gonna be a Fastball and Knuckler combo. He will be A Innings-Eater and a Starter.

Also, I do find that the pitcher takes WAY to long to get to First Base. It is almost impossible to get to the bag before the Runner. I am not sure though if there is a Upgrade in your fielding speed though because that is something that could be used to fix this.

Oh yes, Can you get sent back down to the minors, is it possible (This is a question, my mark is broken)

**Taer** · 03-18-2012, 08:49 AM

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This year, I made a left-handed starter with Tom Seaver mechanics and designated him a "strike-out" pitcher.

My first year, I began with: Fastball, Splitter and 2-seam Fastball. I started out in AA for the Dodger organization, and started 17 games (104IP, 6w 3L, 1.86 ERA, .96 WHIP, 93SO) during which I focused on all the call-up goals and adding a fourth pitch: The Cutter.

I'm in my second year currently, and I was invited to the "Practice Squad" for Spring Training (I assume this is the Minor-League side of MLB12k) but it was weird, because starters were plating with me.

I was sent back down to AA for 5 games and then called up to AAA "Isotopes" team (Which is fun in real life to watch in Arizona) for 7 games. While at Albuquerque, I pitched like Sandy Koufax (47.1IP, 4W 1L, 1.14ERA, .82WHIP, 53 SO) and was called up to the big leagues.

Now with the Dodgers, I fill the 5th rotation spot, made my first start against the despised LA Angles of Anaheim (Luckily in Dodger stadium) and I am currently facing my 4th start (3GS, 0W 0L, .98 ERA, .76WHIP, 12SO, .256BA (felt like Oral Hershiser lol)).

A few observations here about 2k12: My gut tells me they should be inserting me in as a middle-reliever to season me, but so far, the AI keeps me starting with a very strict pitch-count as a limit -- idk if this is normal for this title, but if I were on the development team, I'd be tweaking this a bit.

Secondly, the call-up goals seemed quite arbitrary; with what was giving as my goals, it would have been more realistic to send me in at the big leagues as a middle reliever for the first year like was done to many "naturals" like Koufax or Drysdale

As a result of my strict pitch-count limit, it really does not seem to take into account the situation very well ... in 2 of the games I only had 2 strike outs, but in my 3rd I had 8SOs with sitting 9 straight - but I was still pulled once I reached 65 pitches or so ... so that is now what I am focusing on, knowing that is how the AI runs the insertion of relievers.

I try to really mix up my pitches and locations, using the low corners and the tight inside portions of the plate, my biggest focus is getting my control maxed out for all my pitches, hitting where their stat-data shows "red" for all the hitters.

It will be interesting to see how I will fare in a true hitter's park ... all three games have been in pitcher friendly confines so far, so the occasional long fly-ball ends up being a lazy out near the warning track, instead of being "crushed" into center or something like that.

**Draven1234** · 03-18-2012, 02:59 PM

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I'd like to see you at Fenway!

My Player is doing great. ERA about 2.20 and about 20 K's in 9-10 appearances. I am still a Set-Up Man. I expect if the REd Sox get rid of K-Rod, I will become the new closer.

Also, Can you play as a Pitcher who is a Middle-Reliever/Long Reliever or Just a Starter or Closer?

**Mike_SethT** · 03-18-2012, 07:32 PM

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I just started my second my player career, as a pitcher with my first one being a batter. I randomly chose a team and I went to the yankees organization. So pumped about going to my favorite team.

I chose to go with the workhorse because it definitely seems you get more out of having a 70 rated stamina off the bat. And it showed right away, my first game in AA I got a complete game shut out! I got it done in about 85 pitches with like 60 being strikes, I was going right at the batters with my 2 seam fastball, splitter, and circle change. I gave up 6 hits with striking out 7, pretty happy with the turnout for my pitcher right away. That game jump started my rating goals making like 2500 points.

**Mike_SethT** · 03-19-2012, 05:12 PM

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And now I'm in the big leagues, probably way to soon. Still only rated a 63 with 3 pitches. I think I'm about to get destroyed but maybe I'll get a world series ring out of it in my first year being with the Yankees.

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