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  • Rdrunner
    Banned
    • Jan 2012
    • 263

    #1

    Short relievers....many innings fixed?

    Anyone know if they fixed the problem with relievers with career avgs of less than 1 IP/Game coming in and pitching 3 innings or more?
  • Yeats
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 1581

    #2
    Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

    I don't know. But the problem is their stamina ratings are too high. 40-50 stamina means they'll easily pitch 4-5 innings. One solution is to lower stamina for relievers into the 5-20 range. But that doesn't always work as I've seen the CPU leave pitchers in for 2 or even 3 innings on 0 stamina provided they're still getting my hitters out.

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    • wudl83
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      • Jun 2011
      • 627

      #3
      Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

      COmpared to last year they set the stamina rating of the most relievers way down. That has helped a little bit.

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      • MizzouRah
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        • Jul 2002
        • 8552

        #4
        Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

        Originally posted by wudl83
        COmpared to last year they set the stamina rating of the most relievers way down. That has helped a little bit.
        Yes indeed and I think it's a great model myself. You can check their pitch count rating as it fluctuates according to how rested they are.

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        • wudl83
          Pro
          • Jun 2011
          • 627

          #5
          Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

          Originally posted by MizzouRah
          Yes indeed and I think it's a great model myself. You can check their pitch count rating as it fluctuates according to how rested they are.
          Right. If you go deep in a game like say 13-14 innings and you have to bring in 3-4 relievers, you can get a problem the next day.

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          • MizzouRah
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            • Jul 2002
            • 8552

            #6
            Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

            Originally posted by wudl83
            Right. If you go deep in a game like say 13-14 innings and you have to bring in 3-4 relievers, you can get a problem the next day.
            Exactly.. especially when I lose a SP in the first inning..

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            • Rdrunner
              Banned
              • Jan 2012
              • 263

              #7
              Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

              Originally posted by MizzouRah
              Exactly.. especially when I lose a SP in the first inning..
              Yeah, that sucks doesn't it.

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              • aykyle
                Rookie
                • Nov 2010
                • 201

                #8
                Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                Yea, with the Phillies, I had Papelbon pitch one inning for a save. And the next day. He had like 66 energy. I figured, eh it is only one inning, right? Well he could only throw a max of 12 pitches.
                Silly me.

                edit: and not to mention if you leave someone in too long pitching, you run the risk of injury. I had Cliff Lee 2 pitches over the minimum it says he can throw and he tore a ligament in his shoulder.

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                • MizzouRah
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8552

                  #9
                  Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                  My pitching staff is a mess, injuries everywhere!

                  Carpenter, Wainwright, Garcia, Lohse, Sanchez.. all out with injuries!

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                  • wudl83
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 627

                    #10
                    Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                    Originally posted by MizzouRah
                    My pitching staff is a mess, injuries everywhere!

                    Carpenter, Wainwright, Garcia, Lohse, Sanchez.. all out with injuries!
                    That problem is based on the crippled ratings by 2k.

                    Look at the durability ratings:

                    Carpenter: 67
                    Garcia: 58
                    Lohse: 72
                    (really don't know what Sanchez you mean. Did you trade for him? I don't know a pitcher called Sanchez who is with the Cards.

                    As you look at those ratings you shouldn't wonder anymore that those players have injuries quite often!

                    Last year the most players had a durability rating over 80.
                    Now the most players have something between 50-70.

                    This is WAY too low. When you get those players fatigued you nearly can bet on them being injured.

                    I posted in MKharsh's thread that the ratings 2k gave the players are mostly utterly garbage.

                    This is another proof of it...

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                    • MizzouRah
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8552

                      #11
                      Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                      Originally posted by wudl83
                      That problem is based on the crippled ratings by 2k.

                      Look at the durability ratings:

                      Carpenter: 67
                      Garcia: 58
                      Lohse: 72
                      (really don't know what Sanchez you mean. Did you trade for him? I don't know a pitcher called Sanchez who is with the Cards.

                      As you look at those ratings you shouldn't wonder anymore that those players have injuries quite often!

                      Last year the most players had a durability rating over 80.
                      Now the most players have something between 50-70.

                      This is WAY too low. When you get those players fatigued you nearly can bet on them being injured.

                      I posted in MKharsh's thread that the ratings 2k gave the players are mostly utterly garbage.

                      This is another proof of it...
                      Eduardo Sanchez #52, middle relief. I've had injuries with pitchers in the first inning, so I don't think it has to do with durability all the time.

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                      • wudl83
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 627

                        #12
                        Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                        Originally posted by MizzouRah
                        Eduardo Sanchez #52, middle relief. I've had injuries with pitchers in the first inning, so I don't think it has to do with durability all the time.
                        Yes, it has.
                        Durability is the factor that comes in for calculating the likelihood of a player getting injured. The inning doesn't matter.

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                        • MizzouRah
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #13
                          Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                          Originally posted by wudl83
                          Yes, it has.
                          Durability is the factor that comes in for calculating the likelihood of a player getting injured. The inning doesn't matter.
                          Ok, I see what you are saying now. Maybe 2k will fix that?

                          I know most have turned down injury rate, but for now, I'll keep it at default - although if I get too many more, it's going down a couple of notches.

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                          • wudl83
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 627

                            #14
                            Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                            Originally posted by MizzouRah
                            Ok, I see what you are saying now. Maybe 2k will fix that?

                            I know most have turned down injury rate, but for now, I'll keep it at default - although if I get too many more, it's going down a couple of notches.
                            You mean that 2k edits the durability ratings in their upcoming rosters? Can't imagine this...sadly.

                            I am about to edit a roster for pc and the more I look at the player ratings the more I recognize how flawed many ratings are.

                            Want an example? Lincecum having a 35 clutch rating and Gerrardo Parra 68.
                            Last edited by wudl83; 03-31-2012, 01:01 PM.

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                            • Rdrunner
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 263

                              #15
                              Re: Short relievers....many innings fixed?

                              Originally posted by MizzouRah
                              Ok, I see what you are saying now. Maybe 2k will fix that?

                              I know most have turned down injury rate, but for now, I'll keep it at default - although if I get too many more, it's going down a couple of notches.
                              Get the roster editor and do a global edit to increase the durability ratings for everyone in the league.

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