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  • MuffinMcFluffin
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 4215

    #61
    Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

    Even though he has been known to joke (BOTH Pared and FP), both posters can have insightful meanings, and both made sense... but weren't obvious.

    FatPitcher, even I didn't know what you meant. However, from what you said, it kind of seems like you didn't fully understand what Pared meant. Pared didn't fully explain what I meant by momentum either, nor by the whole analog stick thing.

    Another way that you could use the analog stick in fielding is for turning (the main thing I was talking about). You don't make direct angles and cuts, they make kind of wider turns and lean (if ANYBODY understands what I mean please respond... if you don't know what I mean, please play Madden, ESPN Football, any hockey game, watch any sport where they have to turn, or try sprinting and make a full 180 while sprinting.).

    This is what I mean by momentum. If leaning is a better term, that's what I mean. If "running on ice" is a better term, that's what I mean. Momentum also has to do with what someone else said (it may have been Pared, too lazy to look back), where if you want to turn around another way, you would have to slow down, and turn around. You can't COMPLETELY come to a halt, you need to slow down before you stop, and then you can turn around.

    Please download Madden videos or play Madden for an exaggerated version of momentum, something that I'm talking about mostly. ESPN adds a little momentum, and a pretty good leaning system when you turn. Watch those videos or play that game also.


    Does ANYBODY follow me? If you do, please let me know if this is a good idea for baseball games or not... because it adds realism.

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    • GoStros
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 272

      #62
      Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

      Play Inside Pitch and you will see some very good momentum base running and the runners go all over the place in run downs.
      This year it's going to be 1 of 2 games for me, either I.P. or MVP. I can't take funny animations of WSB any longer.
      The funny thing is that's all i used to play.

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      • GoStros
        Rookie
        • Feb 2003
        • 272

        #63
        Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

        Play Inside Pitch and you will see some very good momentum base running and the runners go all over the place in run downs.
        This year it's going to be 1 of 2 games for me, either I.P. or MVP. I can't take funny animations of WSB any longer.
        The funny thing is that's all i used to play.

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        • GoStros
          Rookie
          • Feb 2003
          • 272

          #64
          Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

          Play Inside Pitch and you will see some very good momentum base running and the runners go all over the place in run downs.
          This year it's going to be 1 of 2 games for me, either I.P. or MVP. I can't take funny animations of WSB any longer.
          The funny thing is that's all i used to play.

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          • FatPitcher
            *SPN B*s*b*ll
            • Jul 2002
            • 885

            #65
            Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

            Rounding bases is a good thing to have. Another place you want to have momentum when running is reversing directions on the basepath (we've had this since 2k2).

            We do have momentum for throwing...if you are running one direction and throw, you'll see the guy slow/skid to a halt, then turn and throw.

            Momentum for fielders running around is a trickier thing to do, because you often need precise control to run and touch a base, tag a runner, intercept the ball, etc., and it's very frustrating when you can't move in the exact direction you need to. That's why we allow you to turn instantly and keep going full speed.

            Home Run King IS the sequel to 2K1.

            Game developers work much harder and are more passionate about their jobs than anyone else in the game industry (especially outside EA, because your team is half the size). However, whining, insults, and threats are not a good way to get answers from someone who's regularly worked 40 hour "days" and 100+ hour weeks for over 2 years, Just a heads-up.

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            • FatPitcher
              *SPN B*s*b*ll
              • Jul 2002
              • 885

              #66
              Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

              Rounding bases is a good thing to have. Another place you want to have momentum when running is reversing directions on the basepath (we've had this since 2k2).

              We do have momentum for throwing...if you are running one direction and throw, you'll see the guy slow/skid to a halt, then turn and throw.

              Momentum for fielders running around is a trickier thing to do, because you often need precise control to run and touch a base, tag a runner, intercept the ball, etc., and it's very frustrating when you can't move in the exact direction you need to. That's why we allow you to turn instantly and keep going full speed.

              Home Run King IS the sequel to 2K1.

              Game developers work much harder and are more passionate about their jobs than anyone else in the game industry (especially outside EA, because your team is half the size). However, whining, insults, and threats are not a good way to get answers from someone who's regularly worked 40 hour "days" and 100+ hour weeks for over 2 years, Just a heads-up.

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              • FatPitcher
                *SPN B*s*b*ll
                • Jul 2002
                • 885

                #67
                Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

                Rounding bases is a good thing to have. Another place you want to have momentum when running is reversing directions on the basepath (we've had this since 2k2).

                We do have momentum for throwing...if you are running one direction and throw, you'll see the guy slow/skid to a halt, then turn and throw.

                Momentum for fielders running around is a trickier thing to do, because you often need precise control to run and touch a base, tag a runner, intercept the ball, etc., and it's very frustrating when you can't move in the exact direction you need to. That's why we allow you to turn instantly and keep going full speed.

                Home Run King IS the sequel to 2K1.

                Game developers work much harder and are more passionate about their jobs than anyone else in the game industry (especially outside EA, because your team is half the size). However, whining, insults, and threats are not a good way to get answers from someone who's regularly worked 40 hour "days" and 100+ hour weeks for over 2 years, Just a heads-up.

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                • K_GUN
                  C*t*z*n *f RSN
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3891

                  #68
                  Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?




                  Fat,

                  don't let a couple of sour grapes scare you outta here

                  your hard work/answering are appreciated

                  K_GUN
                  Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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                  • K_GUN
                    C*t*z*n *f RSN
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3891

                    #69
                    Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?




                    Fat,

                    don't let a couple of sour grapes scare you outta here

                    your hard work/answering are appreciated

                    K_GUN
                    Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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                    • K_GUN
                      C*t*z*n *f RSN
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3891

                      #70
                      Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?




                      Fat,

                      don't let a couple of sour grapes scare you outta here

                      your hard work/answering are appreciated

                      K_GUN
                      Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #71
                        Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

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                        I've gone back in time and added this ability in WSB and WSB2K3. Enjoy.

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                        What was the purpose of this smart *** comment? Maybe if you would spend less time making stupid remarks on message boards and more time improving your game you wouldn't have to worry about people regarding other games as "better."

                        If the "K-Zone" is the biggest feature you guys are sporting, then ESPN will have a pathetic showing this year. Good job!

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                        Pared, relax. FatPitcher said this because this feature WAS in WSB2k3! In the field, if you pressed the analog stick slighty, the fielder would walk/jog, if you pressed it all the way, the fielder would run. Why don't you check the game before making a post like that, let alone being a jackass to one of the best and insightful posters from last year.

                        On a side note, I agree with you that player momentum could be improved, but I don't believe you worded it well.

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                        My mistake on it not being in the previous games... However, there's simply no need to result to insults and calling anyone a "jackass." It only makes you look like an... No I won't tell you what it makes you look like because I'd be stooping to your level. While I was simply defending what I took as a smartass reply, it was obvious I wasn't the only one to interpret it that way.

                        If anything poorly worded remarks were the reason for the misunderstanding. Take a look at Muffin's post and you'll see what I'm talking about. Maybe you can learn how to be a mediator properly next time.

                        With that said, I know exactly what you mean Muffin. It doesn't take much to understand the point we're trying to make if you're into realistically representing a sport as much as it seems we are into.

                        It would be great if some posters from OS could get together with game developers and say "Ok, this is what we need to do to make the BEST baseball game on the market."

                        In terms of presentation, I have some great ideas that would make playing a game of video game baseball feel as if you were watching a real broadcast.

                        ESPN's NFL Football put some of the ideas I had to light. Let's hope baseball goes the same way...
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #72
                          Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

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                          Kotter said:
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                          Pared said:
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                          FatPitcher said:
                          I've gone back in time and added this ability in WSB and WSB2K3. Enjoy.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          What was the purpose of this smart *** comment? Maybe if you would spend less time making stupid remarks on message boards and more time improving your game you wouldn't have to worry about people regarding other games as "better."

                          If the "K-Zone" is the biggest feature you guys are sporting, then ESPN will have a pathetic showing this year. Good job!

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Pared, relax. FatPitcher said this because this feature WAS in WSB2k3! In the field, if you pressed the analog stick slighty, the fielder would walk/jog, if you pressed it all the way, the fielder would run. Why don't you check the game before making a post like that, let alone being a jackass to one of the best and insightful posters from last year.

                          On a side note, I agree with you that player momentum could be improved, but I don't believe you worded it well.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          My mistake on it not being in the previous games... However, there's simply no need to result to insults and calling anyone a "jackass." It only makes you look like an... No I won't tell you what it makes you look like because I'd be stooping to your level. While I was simply defending what I took as a smartass reply, it was obvious I wasn't the only one to interpret it that way.

                          If anything poorly worded remarks were the reason for the misunderstanding. Take a look at Muffin's post and you'll see what I'm talking about. Maybe you can learn how to be a mediator properly next time.

                          With that said, I know exactly what you mean Muffin. It doesn't take much to understand the point we're trying to make if you're into realistically representing a sport as much as it seems we are into.

                          It would be great if some posters from OS could get together with game developers and say "Ok, this is what we need to do to make the BEST baseball game on the market."

                          In terms of presentation, I have some great ideas that would make playing a game of video game baseball feel as if you were watching a real broadcast.

                          ESPN's NFL Football put some of the ideas I had to light. Let's hope baseball goes the same way...
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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #73
                            Re: Does anyone else want to see player momentum in a baseball game?

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                            Kotter said:
                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            Pared said:
                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            FatPitcher said:
                            I've gone back in time and added this ability in WSB and WSB2K3. Enjoy.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            What was the purpose of this smart *** comment? Maybe if you would spend less time making stupid remarks on message boards and more time improving your game you wouldn't have to worry about people regarding other games as "better."

                            If the "K-Zone" is the biggest feature you guys are sporting, then ESPN will have a pathetic showing this year. Good job!

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Pared, relax. FatPitcher said this because this feature WAS in WSB2k3! In the field, if you pressed the analog stick slighty, the fielder would walk/jog, if you pressed it all the way, the fielder would run. Why don't you check the game before making a post like that, let alone being a jackass to one of the best and insightful posters from last year.

                            On a side note, I agree with you that player momentum could be improved, but I don't believe you worded it well.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            My mistake on it not being in the previous games... However, there's simply no need to result to insults and calling anyone a "jackass." It only makes you look like an... No I won't tell you what it makes you look like because I'd be stooping to your level. While I was simply defending what I took as a smartass reply, it was obvious I wasn't the only one to interpret it that way.

                            If anything poorly worded remarks were the reason for the misunderstanding. Take a look at Muffin's post and you'll see what I'm talking about. Maybe you can learn how to be a mediator properly next time.

                            With that said, I know exactly what you mean Muffin. It doesn't take much to understand the point we're trying to make if you're into realistically representing a sport as much as it seems we are into.

                            It would be great if some posters from OS could get together with game developers and say "Ok, this is what we need to do to make the BEST baseball game on the market."

                            In terms of presentation, I have some great ideas that would make playing a game of video game baseball feel as if you were watching a real broadcast.

                            ESPN's NFL Football put some of the ideas I had to light. Let's hope baseball goes the same way...
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