The Demo isn't so bad

[cappadocian]

The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

I played the demo at GameStop this past Saturday. Last year WSB 2K3 was my favorite by far. The game in itself looks prettier, but the same problems still exist from last year's WSB 2K3 (I quit playing after about 2-3 minutes):

* loopy swinging
* pitch speeds not realistic & little movement
* replays still suck - nothing was shown on the replay of double-play between second and first, except for the first baseman catching the ball for the second out.
* commentary still sucks

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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cappadocian said:
I played the demo at GameStop this past Saturday. Last year WSB 2K3 was my favorite by far. The game in itself looks prettier, but the same problems still exist from last year's WSB 2K3 (I quit playing after about 2-3 minutes):

* loopy swinging
* pitch speeds not realistic &amp; little movement
* replays still suck - nothing was shown on the replay of double-play between second and first, except for the first baseman catching the ball for the second out.
* commentary still sucks

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WOW, where have you been?

1) Demo has no commentary, and IF it did, 2-3 minutes gives you NOTHIN'!

2) Pitch speeds were brought up to realistic speeds now, I guess the demo that you played was on the second fastest or something.

3) Swings are no longer loopy... are you sure you played the correct game?

4) FP said that the replays are a little better this year, so hopefully it improved over the demo.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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cappadocian said:
I played the demo at GameStop this past Saturday. Last year WSB 2K3 was my favorite by far. The game in itself looks prettier, but the same problems still exist from last year's WSB 2K3 (I quit playing after about 2-3 minutes):

* loopy swinging
* pitch speeds not realistic &amp; little movement
* replays still suck - nothing was shown on the replay of double-play between second and first, except for the first baseman catching the ball for the second out.
* commentary still sucks

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WOW, where have you been?

1) Demo has no commentary, and IF it did, 2-3 minutes gives you NOTHIN'!

2) Pitch speeds were brought up to realistic speeds now, I guess the demo that you played was on the second fastest or something.

3) Swings are no longer loopy... are you sure you played the correct game?

4) FP said that the replays are a little better this year, so hopefully it improved over the demo.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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cappadocian said:
I played the demo at GameStop this past Saturday. Last year WSB 2K3 was my favorite by far. The game in itself looks prettier, but the same problems still exist from last year's WSB 2K3 (I quit playing after about 2-3 minutes):

* loopy swinging
* pitch speeds not realistic &amp; little movement
* replays still suck - nothing was shown on the replay of double-play between second and first, except for the first baseman catching the ball for the second out.
* commentary still sucks

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WOW, where have you been?

1) Demo has no commentary, and IF it did, 2-3 minutes gives you NOTHIN'!

2) Pitch speeds were brought up to realistic speeds now, I guess the demo that you played was on the second fastest or something.

3) Swings are no longer loopy... are you sure you played the correct game?

4) FP said that the replays are a little better this year, so hopefully it improved over the demo.

[DXZeke]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

Muffin - that's pretty damn cool that you got your friend on that picture for that avatar. My point was that since you had the ESPN avatar for a while and now have the MVP avatar, that's what I was getting at. I didn't know or mean it in any negative way.

I still stand behind that this demo has promise to it and I'll be waiting for March 24th.

[DXZeke]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

Muffin - that's pretty damn cool that you got your friend on that picture for that avatar. My point was that since you had the ESPN avatar for a while and now have the MVP avatar, that's what I was getting at. I didn't know or mean it in any negative way.

I still stand behind that this demo has promise to it and I'll be waiting for March 24th.

[DXZeke]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

Muffin - that's pretty damn cool that you got your friend on that picture for that avatar. My point was that since you had the ESPN avatar for a while and now have the MVP avatar, that's what I was getting at. I didn't know or mean it in any negative way.

I still stand behind that this demo has promise to it and I'll be waiting for March 24th.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

[PatsFan]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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ThatCanadianGuy said:
I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

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The demo isn't terrible, but it's not indicative of a really good game either. The player animations and faces are downright bad most of the time. Yes, you can have a pitching cursor, but it's set to OFF in the demo, and its one of the options you can't toggle in the demo.

[PatsFan]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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ThatCanadianGuy said:
I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

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The demo isn't terrible, but it's not indicative of a really good game either. The player animations and faces are downright bad most of the time. Yes, you can have a pitching cursor, but it's set to OFF in the demo, and its one of the options you can't toggle in the demo.

[PatsFan]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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ThatCanadianGuy said:
I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

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The demo isn't terrible, but it's not indicative of a really good game either. The player animations and faces are downright bad most of the time. Yes, you can have a pitching cursor, but it's set to OFF in the demo, and its one of the options you can't toggle in the demo.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: The game wasn\'t improved much, no worse than last year

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PatsFan said:
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ThatCanadianGuy said:
I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

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The demo isn't terrible, but it's not indicative of a really good game either. The player animations and faces are downright bad most of the time. Yes, you can have a pitching cursor, but it's set to OFF in the demo, and its one of the options you can't toggle in the demo.

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BUT you can set it in the final version, so it doesn't really matter what the demo has or not, as long as it's available in the final version.

I get what you're saying though.

I'm hoping that many faces will either be different or fixed, because FP said that while they have 400+ faces, they are all pretty damn good this year.

IMO, all of the animations are good... I don't like how they go from one to another though, because there's no momentum or whatever, you can do an instant 180 without ANY turning, stuff like that. Also, you have to complete an animation before doing another, so like, in that Red Sox vs Yankees vid on that ground ball, when the 2nd baseman got up after diving for the ground ball, he still had to finish his animation by stumbling forward, and THEN you could control him, and it looked weird, again, to see the 180 thing. I'm glad they got rid of most of those herky-jerky animations though.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

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PatsFan said:
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ThatCanadianGuy said:
I'm enjoying the demo personally. The swing animations and faces could use some serious work though. Gameplay seemed pretty damn solid for an early demo, field textures were awesome, and the controls were good.

Maybe I missed it, but is there no way to turn on a cursor for pitching so I can see where I'm aiming my pitches?

I'll rent the final version and see if I'll be buying it along with MVP. Never played 2K3, but I enjoyed the first one on Xbox.

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The demo isn't terrible, but it's not indicative of a really good game either. The player animations and faces are downright bad most of the time. Yes, you can have a pitching cursor, but it's set to OFF in the demo, and its one of the options you can't toggle in the demo.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

BUT you can set it in the final version, so it doesn't really matter what the demo has or not, as long as it's available in the final version.

I get what you're saying though.

I'm hoping that many faces will either be different or fixed, because FP said that while they have 400+ faces, they are all pretty damn good this year.

IMO, all of the animations are good... I don't like how they go from one to another though, because there's no momentum or whatever, you can do an instant 180 without ANY turning, stuff like that. Also, you have to complete an animation before doing another, so like, in that Red Sox vs Yankees vid on that ground ball, when the 2nd baseman got up after diving for the ground ball, he still had to finish his animation by stumbling forward, and THEN you could control him, and it looked weird, again, to see the 180 thing. I'm glad they got rid of most of those herky-jerky animations though.