Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

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  • brindelin
    Rookie
    • May 2004
    • 3

    #1

    Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

    Anyone else think they should be a few points higher than 79?
  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #2
    Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

    Yeah some ratings in the game are quesitonable, most noticably that Jose Contreras is rated the same as Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens at 84 overall.


    I definatley edited that.
    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #3
      Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

      Yeah some ratings in the game are quesitonable, most noticably that Jose Contreras is rated the same as Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens at 84 overall.


      I definatley edited that.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #4
        Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

        Yeah some ratings in the game are quesitonable, most noticably that Jose Contreras is rated the same as Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens at 84 overall.


        I definatley edited that.
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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        • brindelin
          Rookie
          • May 2004
          • 3

          #5
          Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

          What did you lower him to?

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          • brindelin
            Rookie
            • May 2004
            • 3

            #6
            Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

            What did you lower him to?

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            • brindelin
              Rookie
              • May 2004
              • 3

              #7
              Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

              What did you lower him to?

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              • Autoproxy
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 371

                #8
                Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?


                If Clement continues to pitch as well as he has this season, then he should be rated higher. But given his track record (only one good year, two years ago) I think 79 is a fine rating. He is a nice K pitcher, but his record of walks is pretty ugly. As for Zambrano...that's a tough call. It's hard to rate young players, and I guess they thought he'd be worse than he is. I'd say 79 is a bit low for him too, but I'd rather have lots of young players be lower rated than a lot be more highly rated.

                As for Clemens being an 84...that's fine for him. No one could predict how well he'd pitch this season...and by the end of his season his stats won't be spectacular anyway. Based on his last two years, I'm fine with an 84 as well. That's still higher than a lot of other good pitchers, and he shouldn't be near 90.

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                • Autoproxy
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 371

                  #9
                  Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?


                  If Clement continues to pitch as well as he has this season, then he should be rated higher. But given his track record (only one good year, two years ago) I think 79 is a fine rating. He is a nice K pitcher, but his record of walks is pretty ugly. As for Zambrano...that's a tough call. It's hard to rate young players, and I guess they thought he'd be worse than he is. I'd say 79 is a bit low for him too, but I'd rather have lots of young players be lower rated than a lot be more highly rated.

                  As for Clemens being an 84...that's fine for him. No one could predict how well he'd pitch this season...and by the end of his season his stats won't be spectacular anyway. Based on his last two years, I'm fine with an 84 as well. That's still higher than a lot of other good pitchers, and he shouldn't be near 90.

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                  • Autoproxy
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 371

                    #10
                    Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?


                    If Clement continues to pitch as well as he has this season, then he should be rated higher. But given his track record (only one good year, two years ago) I think 79 is a fine rating. He is a nice K pitcher, but his record of walks is pretty ugly. As for Zambrano...that's a tough call. It's hard to rate young players, and I guess they thought he'd be worse than he is. I'd say 79 is a bit low for him too, but I'd rather have lots of young players be lower rated than a lot be more highly rated.

                    As for Clemens being an 84...that's fine for him. No one could predict how well he'd pitch this season...and by the end of his season his stats won't be spectacular anyway. Based on his last two years, I'm fine with an 84 as well. That's still higher than a lot of other good pitchers, and he shouldn't be near 90.

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                    • brindelin
                      Rookie
                      • May 2004
                      • 3

                      #11
                      Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

                      I guess when looking at some of the people they have around the high to mid 70's it seemed kinda low.

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                      • brindelin
                        Rookie
                        • May 2004
                        • 3

                        #12
                        Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

                        I guess when looking at some of the people they have around the high to mid 70's it seemed kinda low.

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                        • brindelin
                          Rookie
                          • May 2004
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

                          I guess when looking at some of the people they have around the high to mid 70's it seemed kinda low.

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                          • MartinDihigo
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1000

                            #14
                            Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

                            Clement is wierd because he has great movement on his pitches , if u edit that in , it bo0sts his overall too much. but i don't care , i basically keep Clement abotu the same , but i make him have a 2seam fastball(cutfastball) that has a 93 movement and a 92speed. I only give that pitch a 77 control tho. His curve also has like a 85 movement and even worse control like 55. Clements regular fastball doesn't have a TON of movement but its decent to the 2 seam and similar.

                            Zambrano is a little better then Clement.

                            The overall rating is only an indicator, It does not say who is the better player, it is only a formula that adds the ratings together to estimate an overall rating. The real importance is the specific ratings. Sometimes you give a guy his real ratings and he has an overall of 83 but he is a mediocre player , and sometimes you give a guy his real ratings and his overall is 72 but he is an impact player.

                            also Hawkins is quite a bit overrated

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                            • MartinDihigo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 1000

                              #15
                              Re: Carlos Zambrano and Matt Clement a bit underrated?

                              Clement is wierd because he has great movement on his pitches , if u edit that in , it bo0sts his overall too much. but i don't care , i basically keep Clement abotu the same , but i make him have a 2seam fastball(cutfastball) that has a 93 movement and a 92speed. I only give that pitch a 77 control tho. His curve also has like a 85 movement and even worse control like 55. Clements regular fastball doesn't have a TON of movement but its decent to the 2 seam and similar.

                              Zambrano is a little better then Clement.

                              The overall rating is only an indicator, It does not say who is the better player, it is only a formula that adds the ratings together to estimate an overall rating. The real importance is the specific ratings. Sometimes you give a guy his real ratings and he has an overall of 83 but he is a mediocre player , and sometimes you give a guy his real ratings and his overall is 72 but he is an impact player.

                              also Hawkins is quite a bit overrated

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