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  • rsnomar05
    MVP
    • Dec 2003
    • 3662

    #1

    Most unrealistic single game ever!

    Note that this is not posted to start a flame war. I like this game, but what happened earlier today is unforgiveable. First off, for some reason the owner wants me to get rid of Matt Clemente at the start of the season, even though he was just signed. So I package him and Millar (Ahearn) off to the Brewers for Ben Sheets. I win the division and make the playoffs, and I play my first game against the Tribe with Sheets on the hill.

    Here's the bogus part: Sheets throws a 20 inning, 3 hit shutout with 28 K's. Yes, that's right, a 20 inning, 3 hit shutout. For those of you curious, this was on the default sliders with only the AI errors bumped up to stop passed balls. The difficulty was All-Star.

    Maybe the K-Zone in this game is just too easy, but no pitcher should ever be able to go 20 and shut out an opposing playoff team. Morgan and Miller kept making comments about how great Sheets' night was, but for some reason they thought it was still the ninth, as every inning they talked about his 9-inning shutout possibilities.

    As for the Tribe, they changed pitchers normally. I blew several chances to win, including a first and third with one out situation in the 15th, but against Sheets they had no chances. I knew coming into each inning that it would be 1-2-3, because that was how the game had gone. For some batters, the controller was rattling, but even in those situation Sheets' confidence was full. The opposing batters' confidence was zero throughout almost the entire game. I don't know about you, but if I'm facing a pitcher who's thrown 19 innings straight, my confidence would be pretty high. Even worse was the fact that his fastball was still at 90.

    I still like this game, and I'm willing to overlook it as an anomaly, but I will be ticked if this happens again in the future. A pitcher going 12 innings I can see, but even then that's iffy. A pitcher going 20 for the shutout? That's unacceptable.
    Last edited by rsnomar05; 03-24-2005, 05:28 PM.
  • baa7
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 11691

    #2
    Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

    Originally posted by rsnomar05
    I still like this game, and I'm willing to overlook it as an anomaly, but I will be ticked if this happens again in the future. A pitcher going 12 innings I can see, but even then that's iffy. A pitcher going 20 for the shutout? That's unacceptable.
    Why didn't you pull him 12 innings previous? There... end of anomaly. What is it that people expect video games to "do it all"? If it doesn't work for you, use your imagination and ingenuity. And c'mon... move the sliders if it's too easy for you. 3 hits? And you played 20 innings like that? That's unacceptable ;-)

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    • baa7
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 11691

      #3
      Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

      Originally posted by rsnomar05
      I still like this game, and I'm willing to overlook it as an anomaly, but I will be ticked if this happens again in the future. A pitcher going 12 innings I can see, but even then that's iffy. A pitcher going 20 for the shutout? That's unacceptable.
      Why didn't you pull him 12 innings previous? There... end of anomaly. What is it that people expect video games to "do it all"? If it doesn't work for you, use your imagination and ingenuity. And c'mon... move the sliders if it's too easy for you. 3 hits? And you played 20 innings like that? That's unacceptable ;-)

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      • jim416
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 10606

        #4
        Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

        People gripe about lack of sliders. This one has a ton that work. You need to use them.

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        • jim416
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 10606

          #5
          Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

          People gripe about lack of sliders. This one has a ton that work. You need to use them.

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          • truckie16
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 597

            #6
            Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

            The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers.

            Did you have it set to "pure baseball" or "arcade".

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            • truckie16
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 597

              #7
              Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

              The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers.

              Did you have it set to "pure baseball" or "arcade".

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #8
                Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                I wish I had your problem. Sometimes my starters lose their effectiveness after 6 innings.
                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #9
                  Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                  I wish I had your problem. Sometimes my starters lose their effectiveness after 6 innings.
                  Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                  "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #10
                    Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                    "I don't mean to start a flame war" HaHa! RIGHT!


                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #11
                      Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                      "I don't mean to start a flame war" HaHa! RIGHT!


                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • rsnomar05
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 3662

                        #12
                        Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                        Originally posted by truckie16
                        The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers.

                        Did you have it set to "pure baseball" or "arcade".
                        It was on pure baseball.

                        "Why didn't you pull him 12 innings previous? There... end of anomaly."

                        I didn't pull him because he was still lights out. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have to put in a reliever just to tell myself, "Hey, it's more realistic this way." The fact is, there shouldn't even be the anomaly in the first place. I shouldn't have to alter my playing style and make stupid moves (like taking Sheets out after 9 when he could have gone 11 more) to try and simulate real baseball. I should be forced to take Sheets out because he's completely lost it or will get injured if I leave him in longer. Leaving him in should have a negative effect (like the computer toasting him for the winning run).

                        "The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers."

                        So now it's my fault that Sheets was still throwing 90 and working on a shutout in the 20th? I'm sorry, but as good as this game is, the fact that a starter can throw a 20 inning shutout is rediculous.

                        "People gripe about lack of sliders. This one has a ton that work. You need to use them."

                        I am going to fiddle with the sliders, but I shouldn't have to be messing with sliders to make the game work and play realistically. I shouldn't have to change sliders to make sure that there aren't a billion passed balls. I've been defending this game to my brother (who likes MVP), but when he saw that Sheets was still in the game, there was nothing I could do to argue against him. I'll tweak the sliders to try and make things more realistic. I like so much about this game (and think it has the best hitting model), but I need to prevent this from happening again.

                        "'I don't mean to start a flame war' HaHa! RIGHT!"

                        If you'll notice I haven't said anything about how good MVP is or MLB. I really like 2K5, and as of now it's my game of choice. I posted this because I was annoyed that I could leave a pitcher in for 20 innings. Whatever argument you provide, it's still not going to change the fact that Sheets should never have gotten that shutout. It's unacceptable that this would happen in a "baseball sim," but as I've said, I like the game. I will be using sliders to try and work around the problem, so I have no intention of starting any flame war.

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                        • rsnomar05
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3662

                          #13
                          Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                          Originally posted by truckie16
                          The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers.

                          Did you have it set to "pure baseball" or "arcade".
                          It was on pure baseball.

                          "Why didn't you pull him 12 innings previous? There... end of anomaly."

                          I didn't pull him because he was still lights out. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have to put in a reliever just to tell myself, "Hey, it's more realistic this way." The fact is, there shouldn't even be the anomaly in the first place. I shouldn't have to alter my playing style and make stupid moves (like taking Sheets out after 9 when he could have gone 11 more) to try and simulate real baseball. I should be forced to take Sheets out because he's completely lost it or will get injured if I leave him in longer. Leaving him in should have a negative effect (like the computer toasting him for the winning run).

                          "The only unacceptable thing about your game is that, you left Sheets in for 20 innings. I played a game a few days ago that went 18 and I used all but one of my relievers."

                          So now it's my fault that Sheets was still throwing 90 and working on a shutout in the 20th? I'm sorry, but as good as this game is, the fact that a starter can throw a 20 inning shutout is rediculous.

                          "People gripe about lack of sliders. This one has a ton that work. You need to use them."

                          I am going to fiddle with the sliders, but I shouldn't have to be messing with sliders to make the game work and play realistically. I shouldn't have to change sliders to make sure that there aren't a billion passed balls. I've been defending this game to my brother (who likes MVP), but when he saw that Sheets was still in the game, there was nothing I could do to argue against him. I'll tweak the sliders to try and make things more realistic. I like so much about this game (and think it has the best hitting model), but I need to prevent this from happening again.

                          "'I don't mean to start a flame war' HaHa! RIGHT!"

                          If you'll notice I haven't said anything about how good MVP is or MLB. I really like 2K5, and as of now it's my game of choice. I posted this because I was annoyed that I could leave a pitcher in for 20 innings. Whatever argument you provide, it's still not going to change the fact that Sheets should never have gotten that shutout. It's unacceptable that this would happen in a "baseball sim," but as I've said, I like the game. I will be using sliders to try and work around the problem, so I have no intention of starting any flame war.

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                          • catcatch22
                            Or should I
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3378

                            #14
                            Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                            How many pitches did you throw, if you threw like 250 pitches thats one thing but the way you described it it sounds like you probably threw only like 90 - 130 pitches the whole game. If thats so then you need to bump up the difficulty. Obviously you have mastered pitching on that difficulty its a game where you have to tailor the difficulty to your skills.

                            I remember when High Heat 2002 came out and this guy posted on a message board that he won 160 games out of the 162 game season with the yankees after playing every single game. Mind you this was after just 1 month after the game was released. He played the game on the pro difficulty setting (default). He had the audacity to say that the game was not realistic when I can go 160 and 2. If you ever played high heat on pro difficulty it was not the toughest setting and he was flamed to death for posting that. He retorted that it was the default difficulty and that at default he should not be able to go 160-2, he refused to even play on a higher difficulty level.

                            Also not to be a smart *** or a "fanboy" by defending the game, (this game is unplayable to me without "real" cursor hitting) a while back didn't Spahn and Marichel each pitched 15-16 innings in one game. Not saying it would happen in todays game nor should it happen in the video game but those guys pitched every 3-4 days and would pitch 9 innings every time, probably pitching 150 pitches if they had to as long as they finished the game.

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                            • catcatch22
                              Or should I
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3378

                              #15
                              Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                              How many pitches did you throw, if you threw like 250 pitches thats one thing but the way you described it it sounds like you probably threw only like 90 - 130 pitches the whole game. If thats so then you need to bump up the difficulty. Obviously you have mastered pitching on that difficulty its a game where you have to tailor the difficulty to your skills.

                              I remember when High Heat 2002 came out and this guy posted on a message board that he won 160 games out of the 162 game season with the yankees after playing every single game. Mind you this was after just 1 month after the game was released. He played the game on the pro difficulty setting (default). He had the audacity to say that the game was not realistic when I can go 160 and 2. If you ever played high heat on pro difficulty it was not the toughest setting and he was flamed to death for posting that. He retorted that it was the default difficulty and that at default he should not be able to go 160-2, he refused to even play on a higher difficulty level.

                              Also not to be a smart *** or a "fanboy" by defending the game, (this game is unplayable to me without "real" cursor hitting) a while back didn't Spahn and Marichel each pitched 15-16 innings in one game. Not saying it would happen in todays game nor should it happen in the video game but those guys pitched every 3-4 days and would pitch 9 innings every time, probably pitching 150 pitches if they had to as long as they finished the game.

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