Fatigue settings require adjusting

[baa7]

I’ve read some people believe the User Fatigue slider is programmed backwards: that the higher you raise it, the less the P tires. After running some tests, I found that’s not true. Both User and AI sliders work as advertised: move them to the right and the P tires faster.

However, it turns out the CPU has a fatigue advantage in this game. If both sliders are set at 50 for example, the User P will tire faster than the CPU P. Suggestion: set the User Fatigue slider 10 points lower than the CPU-AI Fatigue slider.

[Radja]

Re: Fatigue settings require adjusting

yeah, baa, i was one who thought the other way.

but does it seem to you that the human pitcher is automaticly "tired" if you get to the 7th?

my guy can be sailing along and i hit the seventh and he automaticly is in the red.

i have been experimenting with a setting of 20 human 30 cpu because i want to sometimes have 110 pitch human game. i cant get past the mid-80's low 90's without really getting exhausted.

[baa7]

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but does it seem to you that the human pitcher is automaticly "tired" if you get to the 7th?

Some of that may have to do with the different P’s Stamina ratings, but I’m sure you’re taking that into account. Yet how many player ratings in this game go higher than 100 for example? (I noticed Juan Pierre has a Batting SO rating of 110 or whatever.) Maybe the 100+ P's are Super-Stamina guys that can go 9 innings or something...

I haven’t tested or looked at all that. I said “10 point difference” assuming the difference and drop in fatigue is equally relative with regards to where the two sliders are each set, along with things like which inning it is or how many pitches have been thrown. It could be with AI Fatigue at 30, User Fatigue might need to be 15 or even 10 or something… I don’t know. As you’ve no doubt noticed, the moment P fatigue starts to hit the red, the rate it at which it drops increases. That increase might affect User Fatigue more than AI Fatigue, thus the sudden exhaustion in the 7th inning for User P’s… Who can know how they programmed that?

[Radja]

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under all the 2k baseball games, the pitchers in the rotation screen have stamina numbers list and they go anywhere from 30 to 129. starters have the higher numbers of course.

i, probably erroneously, have always felt that meant their highest pitch count, much like the way real managers have pitch counts for their staff.

using seattle, some pitchers were exhausted at 55 pitches. now, this was in season and i learned that the game does take into account previous games pitched and recovery after i brought a few relivers in and they started out exhausted.

but a 55 pitch count for a starter who is not getting rocked did not make sense. hence the drop the fatigue slider project begins.

[baa7]

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i brought a few relivers in and they started out exhausted.

That's good to hear. I thought fatigue carry-over was broken this year -- that everyone started out with full stamina next game, including the starter who just pitched the previous game.

I don't know -- it sounds like maybe a 15 or even 20 point difference in Stamina between User and AI is needed. Maybe that's all that's needed to fix the discrepancy.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Fatigue settings require adjusting

Sounds Like 60 Human & 40 CPU is a good starting point.

[baa7]

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Sounds Like 60 Human & 40 CPU is a good starting point.

Other way around ;-)

[bigfnjoe96]

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Other way around ;-)

;-( OOOOPPPSSSSSSSS.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Looks like 35 Human 65 CPU is realistic.

[bigfnjoe96]

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I change CPU Fatigue to 75 & kept Human @ 35. Just played a game against Oakland. Zito still had half-a-meter going into the 8th. I'll play later & see what happens.

[Radja]

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let me know how it works, joe.

what method do you use?

are you playing a season with these settings?

i know it doesnt happen, but it seems that some guys wear down as the season goes on. ryan franklin of the mariners couldnt get past 50 pitches at the end of the season.

[stripmallp]

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I think the confidence meter has an effect on how quickly a pitcher tires. If a pitcher has a full confidence meter it really takes more to wear him out. Pitchers with no confidence can go down in the 4th. The god darn confidence meter freakin ruins this game. Don't get me wrong I will keep playin this game but it seems that just about everything that bugs me about this game has to do with the darn confidence meter.

One of the confidence meter things I hate the most is the pitcher HR's. I've been jacked by Pedro and Ramon Ortiz and have hit'em with Louiza (however you spell that) and Suppan. Stupid confidence...

[baa7]

Re: Fatigue settings require adjusting

I think the confidence meter has an effect on how quickly a pitcher tires. If a pitcher has a full confidence meter it really takes more to wear him out.

Interesting theory. I'll have to test that. Maybe through some strange bit of programming logic they're inter-related, and that lowering the fatigue slider will lower the rate at which confidence drops...?

[stripmallp]

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I doubt if they are that closely related. I am pretty sure that low confidence makes your pitcher tire faster. But I don't think fatigue has any effect on confidence. When a confident pitcher gets tired his confidence doesn't wane unless he starts getting lit up.