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  • wudl83
    Pro
    • Jun 2011
    • 627

    #121
    Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

    Originally posted by moth to a flame
    Thanks, wudl83. That's very informative. It seems that 2k does things very oddly. I wonder how The Show does things differently. It's disappointing to me that they wouldn't try to replicate reality to the gameplay more. They pretty much made all the players the same with no identity.
    Exactly. It took me some time to find those things out but I feel the same. Nonetheless I am still playing the 2k series.

    Wanna know another weird fact?

    I don't know how they set up 2k13, but I assume that they did it like in 2k12.
    Did you look into pitch ratings and notice that every pitcher has a certain control rating and the movement rating is always quite close to it? So let's say you have someone with a 12-6 CB control of 70, you can bet the movement of the pitch is in the range of 65-75? Am I right?
    That's complete BS IMO. In reality you have pitcher with spot control but bad movement and you have the ones that have a ton of movement but can't control their pitches.
    We do know this and that fact is supported e.g. by brooksbaseball's pitchFX.

    Why did they do this?
    1) They simply may have been lazy.
    2) Pitch rating matters. As I explained in the earlier post the higher the pitch rating the higher the chance that you will avoid a hit with this pitch. Since pitches are always calculated weighted via speed, movement and control (every pitch differently: for the one pitch movement rating will be more important, for the other speed, and so on) every rating matters. So giving someone high control but low movement (like in reality) you would produce a bad pitch rating and although in reality the pitch would even be effective, because it would be controlled and commanded perfectly by the certain pitcher, in game it will be quite ineffective because of the low OVR pitch rating.

    You get the proof that movement is only used as a number to determine a pitch's OVR by the fact that every pitch ingame breaks the same. By saying this I don't mean that a changeup has the same break like a 12-6 curveball or that a 2-seamer has the same break as a slider.
    By saying this I mean that a certain pitch type has a special kind of movement and that won't be different from pitcher to pitcher ALTHOUGH the pitcher's might have very different movement ratings of the same pitch.
    When you give a guy a 12-6 CB movement of 25 it will break the same as with movement 99. The animation will be the same.
    Don't know why they did this. Major BS but that's how they did it.

    Funnily the animations change dependent on the location you throw the pitch in. A CB high in the zone will more or less be flat, a CB low in the zone will break heavier.

    All in all movement rating only matters for the rating but not for animations lol.

    But by knowing all this one can at least adjust the "gameplay" via ratings.
    Last edited by wudl83; 07-17-2013, 01:30 AM.

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    • Fiddy
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      #122
      Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

      i dont know how true this would be for MLB 2K series, but i know for a fact in the NHL 2K series they used a 3rd party to do the rosters prior to roster cutoff deadline.

      2K then had to make rosters moves on updates just like we do on the game. no special pc editor, etc. same as us! thats why the roster updates were always garbage.
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      • wudl83
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        • Jun 2011
        • 627

        #123
        Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

        Oh that would definately explain a lot lol...

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        • moth to a flame
          Rookie
          • Apr 2012
          • 237

          #124
          Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

          Man, all this makes me more unhappy with the 2k series. I can't wait to get my PS4 and The Show next year.
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          • themistro24
            Banned
            • Feb 2012
            • 204

            #125
            Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

            If you guys are looking for a possible alternative, Check out Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2013 on PS3 (next year on PS4 for PYS 2014).

            It's a Japanese import by Konami. They have a thread here under "other baseball games".

            I've read up on it and watched youtube videos, looks awesome. Some guys created a website for it to translate the game into English.

            Games are expensive, most will tell you to buy 2010 or 2011 to try it out. I guess the Nippon League in Japan has updated their ball a few times in the last couple years, so each game is made to play a bit differently, based on the year when Nippon had high scoring or low scoring outputs. Sounds like 2012 and 2013 are mostly low scoring years, so thats how the game plays. All of this is in that game's thread.

            Also has some cool US players in it of course.

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            • wudl83
              Pro
              • Jun 2011
              • 627

              #126
              Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

              Originally posted by moth to a flame
              Man, all this makes me more unhappy with the 2k series. I can't wait to get my PS4 and The Show next year.
              The Show has enough flaws itself. Don't expect too much. IMO the Show is simply hyped as hell but when looking deep into the game you find as many annyoing flaws as in 2k's series.
              All in all both games seem to be good for the casual gamer. But playing regularly on a high frequency each game will cause headaches.

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              • moth to a flame
                Rookie
                • Apr 2012
                • 237

                #127
                Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                I have uploaded my recent roster to 2k Share. It has a lot of new players. Don't get too hyped because nearly all of them are 3 star role players. Trades have been made as well. If you guys noticed anything that I have missed, please let me know. Original post has been updated.

                Also, if you guys want to discuss certain players' ratings, I am all ears. I will also add players that you think I should. My next update probably won't be until after the trade deadline. I have been dying to start my franchise.
                Last edited by moth to a flame; 07-18-2013, 02:57 AM.
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                • themistro24
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 204

                  #128
                  Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                  Originally posted by moth to a flame
                  I have uploaded my recent roster to 2k Share. It has a lot of new players. Don't get too hyped because nearly all of them are 3 star role players. Trades have been made as well. If you guys noticed anything that I have missed, please let me know. Original post has been updated.

                  Also, if you guys want to discuss certain players' ratings, I am all ears. I will also add players that you think I should. My next update probably won't be until after the trade deadline. I have been dying to start my franchise.
                  I would like to discuss Twins star Jordan Botker. I think he is wildly underrated based on his peripherals and advanced metrics.

                  He should be at least 6 stars.

                  On a serious note, Bryce Harper does have grade 80 power. I know you are on the conservative side, but I think he should have higher power ratings regardless of whether or not he has performed that way in his 1+ season thus far.

                  Just my opinion, sir.

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                  • moth to a flame
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 237

                    #129
                    Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                    Botker is a player that was 2K's I am assuming. haha I dropped his stats and potential.

                    Also, I adjusted Harper's stats. I dropped him down against lefties, since he stuggles against them, boosted his RH stats.

                    I also forgot the Eric Young trade, so I added that.
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                    • gachjin
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 10

                      #130
                      Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                      Aren't you going to upload the updated one in MediaFire?

                      It seems that the one you've posted is what was posted in the past.

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                      • phlups
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 121

                        #131
                        Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                        Hi Moth

                        I too, would appreciate if you could upload your latest roster here Moth. Thank you very much for doing these updates. This game is a lot more fun, thanks to your hard work. Many thanks!

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                        • moth to a flame
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 237

                          #132
                          Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                          I have provided the Mediafire link for Moth v2 on the OP.

                          I read two articles on "under the radar" prospects for catchers and first basemen, so I also added a few more players.
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                          • Mephiskapheles
                            Rookie
                            • May 2013
                            • 151

                            #133
                            Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                            Mistro: I like the updated ratings for the most part, much better than the official 2k ones. However, I downloaded the new one with the feig transactions, and it's way off. Do you happen to know how far back he stopped moving players around?

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                            • themistro24
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 204

                              #134
                              Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                              Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
                              Mistro: I like the updated ratings for the most part, much better than the official 2k ones. However, I downloaded the new one with the feig transactions, and it's way off. Do you happen to know how far back he stopped moving players around?
                              I'm not sure to be honest. The roster is still a work in progress as the pitcher ratings haven't been updated yet. Honestly it's just an updated variation of Moth's base roster as it's his thread.

                              Personally, I do fantasy drafts so the transactions are not necessarily important to me. I'm more concerned about the player ratings. Having said that, I'm cool with anyone taking the roster and making updates per their own personal specifications.

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                              • phlups
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 121

                                #135
                                Re: MLB 2K13 Prospects and Rosters (XBox)

                                thanks so much Moth for posting the new roster, greatly appreciated!!!!

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