BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

[NimitsTexan]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

I dropped AI Contact to 35 and Batter Skill to 65, and I am gett better results now. Schilling struck out 6 and walked 3 in 8 inning against the Astros (givining up 2 runs on 6 hits), and my closer gave up 1 hit but struck out 2 to end the 9th.

Offense may be a LITTLE weak (though this is Schilling vs. the Astros here). I might up the skill and/or contact a notch, but that is all.

[capone2117]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

I tried these sliders and got a pretty balanced game. I just thought that I'd let you know. The defense is a little lax for me though. I had some easy errors occur that wouldn't have happened 99% of the time in real life. Throughout a season, this might become a problem because through ten games last nite, I had 3 errors every game. Also, cpu running was superhuman, with even the likes of Toby Hall and Paul Konerko stealing 4 bags each in a three game set with the ChiSox.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

OK, guys I made a Change in the Pitcher Difficulty Sliders. I think this why people are not seeing many K's & Dominate Pitchers aren't dominating.

In the User Options change Pitcher Difficulty to 80 & in the AI Batting Options change the AI Pitcher Difficulty to 25. This is starting point & may be tweaked further.

[nnng07]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

OK, guys I made a Change in the Pitcher Difficulty Sliders. I think this why people are not seeing many K's & Dominate Pitchers aren't dominating.

In the User Options change Pitcher Difficulty to 80 & in the AI Batting Options change the AI Pitcher Difficulty to 25. This is starting point & may be tweaked further.

Joe, the Pitcher Difficulty sliders are crucial in this game. I've set the two at 80/20 for me/AI and have found great results since. Your 80/25 split should work quite nicely. Let's all try splits thereabouts and see what kind of results we're getting. I really think I nailed it down nicely at 80/20 and want to see what the rest of you think.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Joe, the Pitcher Difficulty sliders are crucial in this game. I've set the two at 80/20 for me/AI and have found great results since. Your 80/25 split should work quite nicely. Let's all try splits thereabouts and see what kind of results we're getting. I really think I nailed it down nicely at 80/20 and want to see what the rest of you think.

Yeah, I've also come to the same conclusion. It was a little difficult to figure because this is a NEW Slider. I finally saw some good results from my Starter in the 1 game I played(Brew-Crew Franchise) Ben Sheet's K'd 8 Marlins in 7 innings. 3 Looking. Bullpen K'd 1. Turnbow on a filthy slider in the 8th.

It seems that the 80/20 split allows both Pitcher's to pitch close to their likeness. Glad you also found this help nnng07

[True Talent]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

Tried with the new adjustments and they still make contact with everything. I threw a complete game shutout with Erik Bedard on 3 hits, walked 2 and struck out 3. Only 92 pitches, 61 for strikes.

I won the game 2-0, on a solo homer by Millar and a RBI double by Tejada.

Detroit left Kenny Rogers in for the whole game, 116 pitches (63 for strikes), and he wasn't even that fatigued so I think that needs to be adjusted. He gave up 2 runs on 5 hits, 4 walks and 9 K's (which was a product of me getting out in front of all his slow breaking balls.)

[BigMak]

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Tried with these new sliders and still 0 strikeouts. Also with this set, every time the ball was hit in the gap it was a triple. I there there were 6 triples in the game and 0 doubles.

[True Talent]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

I bumped the AI contact down to 40, and either that was too extreme or I just had a good day pitching. Dan Cabrera went 6 innings for me, 1 run on 2 hits, 3 BB, 7 K, 1 HBP. 87 pitches (45 for strikes.) This is about right, but I don't know if it was at the sake of the AI offense or not.

On the other side, Vicente Padilla went 4 2/3, 6 hits, 5 runs, 3 BB, 6 K. 76 pitches (47 for strikes.)

No home runs for either team. I did hit 5 doubles though. Each team drew 4 walks. They struck out 10 times total, I struck out 8. 132 total pitches for them (59% strikes) to 117 pitches for me (58% strikes.) I had 15 hits, they only had 3. I think I need to move my contact down a bit.

[NimitsTexan]

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SerialMike made a post about how the AI uses IE on your starters, that could in part be accounting for good pitchers struggling to get strike outs.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

Alright after reading Serialmike's post on Contact V Power, I've made changes to the User & AI Batting Options.

Alright guys the new Batting Sliders go like this:

User Batting
Contact: 75
Power: 25
Pitcher Difficulty: 80

CPU Batting Option
AI Take Strike Overall: 75
AI Take Strike Ahead: 70
AI Take Strike Behind: 85
AI Take Ball Overall: 40
AI Take Ball Ahead: 35
AI Take Ball Behind: 30
AI Skill: 35
AI Contact: 25
AI Power: 75
AI Bunt For Hit: 50
AI Pitcher Difficulty: 25
AI Effectiveness MOD: 50

With these you should see a nice variety of hits & a lot more Foul Balls then you've probably seen in the game. You should also see some K's if you keep the AI guessing.

For those looking for the full version of these sliders, just go to the 1st post of this thread

Enjoy

[BigMak]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

Was finally able to try out the last update. For the first time I was able to get some strikeouts while pitching. The number of strikeouts seemed good.

A few things. When pitching, I am really not walking anyone. I don't know if this is a slider problem or game issue. I do try and throw pitches off the plate. but it seems that whenever I miss the spot to throw to, it is over the plate. So unless I time everything perfect, the ball is over the plate.

The cpu also seemed to be throwing more strikes in the few games I played. I usually swing at everything so I rarely walk, but I was making far greater contact than I had been. Probably the contact slider I need to lower. But even so, most pitches seemed to be over the plate.

I do think I might be able to start a season with these sliders. Great job. Now I just need to decide if I should turn off injuries and trading.

[jake44np]

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Joe, have you made any more updates to these sliders?
I tried them for the first time last night and got 2 totally different games with them.
The first game I played as the Angels vs the Mariners and won 2-0. I hit 2 solo shots with Vlad and shut out the cpu. The cpu did manage 8 hits to my 4 and I struck out the cpu 11 times.
Game 2 I was the Mets vs the Yankees and won 12-7. I only hit 1 hr but did get 21 hits. The Yanks hit 4 hrs and had 12 hits and I struck them out 9 times.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BIGFNJOE'S 2K7 Pure Realism Zone Pitching/Swing Stick Sliders

Joe, have you made any more updates to these sliders?
I tried them for the first time last night and got 2 totally different games with them.
The first game I played as the Angels vs the Mariners and won 2-0. I hit 2 solo shots with Vlad and shut out the cpu. The cpu did manage 8 hits to my 4 and I struck out the cpu 11 times.
Game 2 I was the Mets vs the Yankees and won 12-7. I only hit 1 hr but did get 21 hits. The Yanks hit 4 hrs and had 12 hits and I struck them out 9 times.

jake44, I haven't really made any tweaks to this set. Do you have any suggestions? Did you feel both games played differently? With so many slider sets out there, I've kinda fell behind in updating these. I've also been a little under the weather.

[jake44np]

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I am not really for sure what to change. It did seem a little too easy to k the cpu, then again 10 k's a game is not too unrealistic. I found it really hard to hit the first game as I had only 4 hits. The second game against the Yanks I hit a line drive off of Mussina's head and he left the game! Anyway I just killed their bullpen scoring 12 runs on 21 hits! So maybe it was just bad pitching and not my hitting??!!

[bigfnjoe96]

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I am not really for sure what to change. It did seem a little too easy to k the cpu, then again 10 k's a game is not too unrealistic. I found it really hard to hit the first game as I had only 4 hits. The second game against the Yanks I hit a line drive off of Mussina's head and he left the game! Anyway I just killed their bullpen scoring 12 runs on 21 hits! So maybe it was just bad pitching and not my hitting??!!

If your finding it a little too easy to "K" the CPU up the AI Skill Slider until you get the results your looking for.

As for you raking the Yankee Bullpen LOL. That could've been an effect of Mussina having to be taking out of the game & the Yankee bullpen not really fully warmed-up to come into the game.

Did you think the AI Pitching was good.(Throwing of Balls & Strikes)