Importan info on setting sliders

[Tyrant8RDFL]

U cannot make the game authentic using the following.
Classic mode for Hitting interface, and Payoff mode for pitching interface.

u must use the follwing.
Swing stick for Hititng Mode, and for Pitching Mode either Zone or Zone 2.

Using this method will without a doubt give u a better authentic game.

Using either zone or zone 2 for pitching wont allow u to own the strike zone and put u under pressure when pitching. u will walk batters, and not paint the corners as easily and throw more mistake pitches.Just find the right pitching interface speed for u then adjust from there when u get better. Start this at 50. Also play with pitch speed atleast at 85. dont go lower.

Now with Hitting its simple just use the hitstick. I finally played a game with the yankees and had 0 HRs. Lost 4-2 and it was a great game. Iam going to experiment with the sliders, but have to understand the hitstick more befor doing that. Also I had contact at 90 and saw alot of different kind of hits , out and foul balls. It was very refreshing. Anyone know any really authentic hitstick sliders let me know. Thanks

[arichzona]

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I disagree........first off, a blanket statement like that may only apply to you...

I think it is possible to get a good sim using both of those....I do agree though that zone pitching does provide more of a challenge

I used every hit stick slider combo on the board and still was not happy with any of them. I currently am toying with a classic hiting combo that seems very close to what I want. I am getting better hit variety and only hitting HR's when I guess perfect.

Setting the change speed slider high (80 or above) with a higher pitch speed will mess you up and make you look stupid, even when you guess the pitch...

.......just my 2 cents

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

I disagree........first off, a blanket statement like that may only apply to you...

I think it is possible to get a good sim using both of those....I do agree though that zone pitching does provide more of a challenge

I used every hit stick slider combo on the board and still was not happy with any of them. I currently am toying with a classic hiting combo that seems very close to what I want. I am getting better hit variety and only hitting HR's when I guess perfect.

Setting the change speed slider high (80 or above) with a higher pitch speed will mess you up and make you look stupid, even when you guess the pitch...

.......just my 2 cents

i guess our level of play differs, and this is why u must find what is good for u.
I played baseball at a high level and the only difference between a fastball and any off speed pitch is a few tenths of a second, and the only pitch speed that offers that is 85 and higher.

You only have about 4 tenths to 6 thenths of a second to decide if a pitch is a ball or strike and what pitch type it is in a real game of baseball. Anything lower than 85 doesnt do that. I want that. I want that experience. Not all of us do and thats cool. We have to respect that. Iam speaking to those u want and understand that,

i'am a true fan of the classic mode but in this game it is very HR friendly and u are forced to give yourself guidelines in order to get the game to play more realsitic. In MVP the classic mode is very well done and u can influence hits , but in this game its pretty much HR with just good timing, so u have to get off the left stick and just press the "A" button for contact. if your cool with that then hey go for it, but this game I just realized was made with the Hit stick in mind and not classic mode, so playing with both modes the hit stick presented better realistic results. u have to fing the right timing for your stride and the right timing to swing your bat, and with every pitch it changes, and with every pitcher. I think thats pretty cool

U may feel it is a blanket statement and a few days ago I would have agreed with you, but after really investing time with both modes I found it to be the truth, but I do respect your opinion and you are 100% intitled to it.

take care

[arichzona]

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i guess our level of play differs, and this is why u must find what is good for u.
I played baseball at a high level and the only difference between a fastball and any off speed pitch is a few tenths of a second, and the only pitch speed that offers that is 85 and higher.

off topic.........

what did you play........sadly I only got in 2 years of A ball (maybe that is why I prefer "classic") before getting let go and finding my "real" job?

[Mjphillips]

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I just can't get with stepping super early and then swinging (that is what i do on swing stick). I played one game using it and won. It felt really rewarding, but the next game I sucked like a two year old trying to play. I just don't understand it I guess. If you could explain the timing with the step and all. Am I supposed to pull back when the pitcher is in his wind up or pull and let it pop forward fast. I am lost using it. It would be cool to wtch somebody do it. Is there a tutorial that helps. GIVE ME SOMETHING FELLAS! I really want to get the hit variety because I am not seeing it with classic.

[RunN1st]

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Are you serious? Is this a serious post? It's about as bad as my 8+ inches mod post.

[michaeldu]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

U cannot make the game authentic using the following.
Classic mode for Hitting interface, and Payoff mode for pitching interface.

u must use the follwing.
Swing stick for Hititng Mode, and for Pitching Mode either Zone or Zone 2.

Using this method will without a doubt give u a better authentic game.

Using either zone or zone 2 for pitching wont allow u to own the strike zone and put u under pressure when pitching. u will walk batters, and not paint the corners as easily and throw more mistake pitches.Just find the right pitching interface speed for u then adjust from there when u get better. Start this at 50. Also play with pitch speed atleast at 85. dont go lower.

Now with Hitting its simple just use the hitstick. I finally played a game with the yankees and had 0 HRs. Lost 4-2 and it was a great game. Iam going to experiment with the sliders, but have to understand the hitstick more befor doing that. Also I had contact at 90 and saw alot of different kind of hits , out and foul balls. It was very refreshing. Anyone know any really authentic hitstick sliders let me know. Thanks

are you using the last slider set you posted with contact at 90?

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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off topic.........

what did you play........sadly I only got in 2 years of A ball (maybe that is why I prefer "classic") before getting let go and finding my "real" job?

Double A ball. again I prefer classic but in this game I find it to be so HR friendly , and im seeing a better game with the hitstick.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

I just can't get with stepping super early and then swinging (that is what i do on swing stick). I played one game using it and won. It felt really rewarding, but the next game I sucked like a two year old trying to play. I just don't understand it I guess. If you could explain the timing with the step and all. Am I supposed to pull back when the pitcher is in his wind up or pull and let it pop forward fast. I am lost using it. It would be cool to wtch somebody do it. Is there a tutorial that helps. GIVE ME SOMETHING FELLAS! I really want to get the hit variety because I am not seeing it with classic.

The thing is that it changes with every pitcher since they have a different whind up, but it pretty much comes to when they have the ball behind them and ready to make the pitch. Iam also still messing with it.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

Are you serious? Is this a serious post? It's about as bad as my 8+ inches mod post.

What is so bad about this post?

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

are you using the last slider set you posted with contact at 90?

yes at this point im messing with 90, i never would have thought it, and it may not even be neccessary but right now im seeing so many different things with hits and outs , and I only got 2 runs on 7 hits with it, but i do have power at 5 ,and the other 2 sliders under it at 0. Im going to see what happens as time goes on and I get a good grasp on the hit stick.

[sleepytercel]

Re: Importan info on setting sliders

I just can't get with stepping super early and then swinging (that is what i do on swing stick). I played one game using it and won. It felt really rewarding, but the next game I sucked like a two year old trying to play. I just don't understand it I guess. If you could explain the timing with the step and all. Am I supposed to pull back when the pitcher is in his wind up or pull and let it pop forward fast. I am lost using it. It would be cool to wtch somebody do it. Is there a tutorial that helps. GIVE ME SOMETHING FELLAS! I really want to get the hit variety because I am not seeing it with classic.

This comes from my slider thread, which has a lot of information.

Swing Stick Help

Okay, so you don't want to use the SS because you can't hit. That delay in the swinging is too hard to get used to. Well, I find that the SS is only a little more chalenging, it keeps you more honest when attempting power swings, influence swings, and when you get used to the mechanic, I find it easier to lay off pitches.

The SS is a two step process, and "Classic" is one. With the SS, you must time your batters step in order to get better contact with the ball. Many people are confused about how to do this. Also, many don't know you have to time the step, and simply try to do the two step process as one continuous motion (hence the reasoning for the "delay").

In 2K6, the game gave you feedback on your step timing. It would tell you if the timing was too soon, perfect, or late. The step timing with the SS is unchanged from 2K6, but for some reason, the developers removed the feedback of your performance with each step in. In 2K6, the perfect step was right before the pitcher releases the ball. When the pitcher is about to release the ball from his hand, that's when you must hold down on the SS. You'll see your batter step in for the swing. All you have to do is release the stick to swing, or push up to power swing (be careful to not click the stick in, as it will cause your player to bunt). You've now reduced that continuous two-step process into two seperate processes. When you press and hold the stick down, you have plenty of time to decipher the pitch before trying to swing. When you do the step properly, releasing the stick is just as fast as pressing the button. You can try practicing in HD to get the handle on it.