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  • waitforamirror
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 46

    #1

    OS&BFJ vs. GURU

    There has to be a common ground amongst these slider sets that will give an all around realistic game of baseball to anyone who at least moderately plays the game! I would like to know which of these slider sets you use, and also why or why not for both, including modifications.?.?.?
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  • BigL
    Pro
    • Sep 2005
    • 612

    #2
    Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

    They are both good sets. My user hitting sliders are closer to Joes and my AI hitting sliders are closer to Gurus. Im still making adjustments myself.

    Like Joe and Guru always say; their sliders are a base for everybody to work with. They are not universal. Some gamers are much better than others, there are different playing styles and different controls so its impossible to make the "perfect" slider set for everyone
    Last edited by BigL; 04-09-2009, 08:39 AM.

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    • mattstl77
      Banned
      • Mar 2004
      • 481

      #3
      Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

      Maybe we should have a poll? I would be interested here some comments as well. They both seem pretty good.

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      • waitforamirror
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 46

        #4
        Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

        i myself have been using a mix of both, i like joes hitting sliders, fielding, and pitching for user, and i like gurus sliders for cpu hitting, and cpu pitching, base running i use a blend of both...

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        • JHedges2
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 4651

          #5
          Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

          Perhaps someone could make a hybrid set of the two...?

          Just a suggestion.
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          • Pmogs10
            Banned
            • Mar 2005
            • 468

            #6
            Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

            Originally posted by waitforamirror
            i myself have been using a mix of both, i like joes hitting sliders, fielding, and pitching for user, and i like gurus sliders for cpu hitting, and cpu pitching, base running i use a blend of both...
            Can you please post your sliders here or send me an e-mail with them [email protected], I am very interested in the set your using, thank you

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            • waitforamirror
              Rookie
              • Mar 2009
              • 46

              #7
              Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

              All sliders are labeled according to source, a (*) denotes that both sets use same setting. These are a combination of BFJ & Guru's latest version slider sets.

              Pitcher Fatigue- 50 (BFJ uses 45, while Guru uses 55)

              User Settings - Batting

              Batting Success-50 (BFJ)
              Batting Contact- 15 (Guru)
              Batting Power- 90 (BFJ)
              Pitcher Handedness Influence- 100*
              Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence- 100*
              Batting Pitch Influence- 75*
              Batter's Eye Influence- 0*
              Hit Direction Influence- 40 (Guru)
              Bunt Contact- 50 (BFJ)
              Bunt Success- 50 (BFJ)

              CPU Settings - Batting

              AI Batting Success- 35 (Guru)
              AI Batting Contact- 15 (Guru)
              AI Batting Power- 80 (BFJ)
              AI Pitcher Handedness Influence- 100*
              AI Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence- 100*
              AI Batting Pitch Influence- 75*
              AI Bunt Contact- 60 (Guru)
              AI Bunt Success- 65 (Guru)

              User Settings - Pitching

              Pitch Meter Speed- 100*
              Pitch Speed- 75 (BFJ)
              Gesture Recognition- 70 (BFJ)
              Hold Timing Influence- 30 (BFJ)
              Release Timing Influence- (BFJ)
              Pitch Rating Influence- 75 (BFJ)
              Pitch Break Influence- 50 (BFJ)
              Pitcher Composure Influence- 75 (BFJ)

              CPU Settings - Pitching

              AI Pitch Success- 45 (Guru)
              AI Pitch Selection Tendency- 100*
              AI Strike Zone Tendency- 0 (Guru)
              AI Pitch Zone Tendency- 10 (Guru)
              AI Pitcher Composure Influence- 75 (Guru)

              User Settings - Fielding

              Fielding Errors- 0 (BFJ)
              Throw Meter Influence- 55 (Guru)
              Fielder Speed- 60 (Guru)

              CPU Settings - Fielding

              AI Fielding Errors- 55 (Guru)
              AI Fielder Speed- 50*

              User Settings - Running

              Base Runner Speed- 65 (BFJ)
              Pickoff Success- 25*
              Catcher Throw-Out Success- 50 (Guru)

              CPU Settings - Running

              AI Hit'n'Run Tendency- 90 (Guru)
              AI Sacrifice Bunt Tendency- 70 (Guru)
              AI Squeeze Tendency- 45 (Guru)
              AI Base Running Aggression- 60 (Guru)
              AI Steal Aggression- 55 (Guru)
              AI Steal Success- 65 (Guru)

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              • Checmate101
                N.W.O. - NO WR OPEN
                • Mar 2006
                • 9947

                #8
                Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                Wish I could try these out..but my 360 is shot
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                • JBH3
                  Marvel's Finest
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 13506

                  #9
                  Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                  Other - Mine.
                  Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                  All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                  • waitforamirror
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 46

                    #10
                    Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                    i haven't really tried your set JBH3, will give them a try. im curious to see if we could all agree on lets say the top 3 sets and then average them out and try that set? although, i do agree there are some very different trains of thought regarding some specific sliders...

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                    • BigL
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 612

                      #11
                      Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                      Originally posted by waitforamirror
                      i haven't really tried your set JBH3, will give them a try. im curious to see if we could all agree on lets say the top 3 sets and then average them out and try that set? although, i do agree there are some very different trains of thought regarding some specific sliders...
                      Last month I did an average of Joe, Guru, Bahnzo and SFGs slider sets, but Bahnzo and SFG didnt update post patch.

                      Right now I have an average of Joe and Guru's if your interested. If you want me to add anybody else in just let me know. I already have the sheet and formulas ready. I just have to punch in the numbers.

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                      • JHedges2
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4651

                        #12
                        Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                        Originally posted by BigL
                        Last month I did an average of Joe, Guru, Bahnzo and SFGs slider sets, but Bahnzo and SFG didnt update post patch.

                        Right now I have an average of Joe and Guru's if your interested. If you want me to add anybody else in just let me know. I already have the sheet and formulas ready. I just have to punch in the numbers.
                        lol, it's amazing how NERDY that sounds, yet, I was thinking of doing the exact same thing lol
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                        • BigL
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 612

                          #13
                          Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                          Originally posted by JMan350Z
                          lol, it's amazing how NERDY that sounds, yet, I was thinking of doing the exact same thing lol
                          lol i dont consider it nerdy, i consider it obssessed with finding the best possible sliders to give us as much of a SIM as possible :wink:

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                          • waitforamirror
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 46

                            #14
                            Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                            Originally posted by BigL
                            Last month I did an average of Joe, Guru, Bahnzo and SFGs slider sets, but Bahnzo and SFG didnt update post patch.

                            Right now I have an average of Joe and Guru's if your interested. If you want me to add anybody else in just let me know. I already have the sheet and formulas ready. I just have to punch in the numbers.
                            perhaps an average of BFJ, Guru, JBH's sliders? also interested in what your BFJ + Guru set looks like...

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                            • BigL
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 612

                              #15
                              Re: OS&BFJ vs. GURU

                              Below are the averages of Joe's, Guru's and JBH's sliders.

                              Batting Success-45
                              Batting Contact- 21.7
                              Batting Power- 80
                              Pitcher Handedness Influence- 100
                              Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence- 100
                              Batting Pitch Influence- 75
                              Hit Direction Influence- 46.7
                              Bunt Contact- 40
                              Bunt Success- 45


                              <TABLE style="WIDTH: 33pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=44 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 33pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1609" width=44><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 33pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=44 height=21 x:num="56.666666666666664">56.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="31.666666666666668">31.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="78.333333333333329">78.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>75</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="61.666666666666664">61.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>55</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="91.666666666666671">91.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>85</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="76.666666666666671">76.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="23.333333333333332">23.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="78.333333333333329">78.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="88.333333333333329">88.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>80</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>75</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="56.666666666666664">56.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="88.333333333333329">88.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="3.3333333333333335">3.33</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="21.666666666666668">21.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="73.333333333333329">73.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="31.666666666666668">31.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>65</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="56.666666666666664">56.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="41.666666666666664">41.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="53.333333333333336">53.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="58.333333333333336">58.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="18.333333333333332">18.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="53.333333333333336">53.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>80</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>70</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="53.333333333333336">53.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>65</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num="61.666666666666664">61.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>55</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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                              Below are the averages of just Joe's and Guru's sliders

                              Batting Success- 37.5
                              Batting Contact- 12.5
                              Batting Power- 85
                              Pitcher Handedness Influence- 100
                              Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence- 100
                              Batting Pitch Influence- 75
                              Hit Direction Influence- 57.5
                              Bunt Contact- 40
                              Bunt Success- 45

                              <TABLE style="WIDTH: 33pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=44 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 33pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1609" width=44><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 33pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=44 height=21 x:num>50</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>17.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>77.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>75</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>67.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>57.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>87.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>85</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>15</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>87.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>87.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>75</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>87.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>52.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>100</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>2.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>15</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>70</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>22.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>65</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>55</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>37.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>50</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>55</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>25</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>60</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>87.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>72.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>47.5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>65</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>60</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=21 x:num>60</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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