Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

[dogrocket]

Default is 50, do I move it to 55 or 45 to make pitchers fatigue a little faster? Thanks.

[kpkpkp]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Moving it to the right makes the pitcher fatigue faster, moving it to the left makes the pitcher fatigue slower.

So if you maxed up to 100 pitchers would fatigue super fast.. if you lowered it to 0 they wouldnt fatigue at all.

Since it sounds like you want to have them fatigue just a little faster I would go with 55 to get your desired result.

[duhitsrandy]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

neither way changes pitch count if thats what you mean, the fatigue slider effects the impact of your pitch count on your pitch effectiveness. so if its 0 then your pitches wont get any weaker as you get closer to your pitch cap. where as 100 would make it so you pitcher starts to lose effectiveness quickly.

[dogrocket]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

neither way changes pitch count if thats what you mean, the fatigue slider effects the impact of your pitch count on your pitch effectiveness. so if its 0 then your pitches wont get any weaker as you get closer to your pitch cap. where as 100 would make it so you pitcher starts to lose effectiveness quickly.

Interesting. My games are routinely under 100 pitches each team and the bullpen is being under-utilized. If I bump fatigue to 55, from 50, will the CPU go to the bullpen when the pitcher becomes less effective due to fatigue or will it stick it out to whatever the PC is, for example 110? I am thinking fatigued earlier = less effective earlier = more runs = bullpen called upon. Make sense?

[mkharsh33]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Advice: take pitches, take pitches, and keep taking pitches... It's all about PITCH COUNT.

I have fatigue at 45 and have found it to be perfect...

[wudl83]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Advice: take pitches, take pitches, and keep taking pitches... It's all about PITCH COUNT.

I have fatigue at 45 and have found it to be perfect...

Well, the difference of 75 vs. 45 is really BIG. Sometimes - even when I work the count really high - the other teams pitcher would simply pitch, and pitch, and pitch and pitch @ 45. Bumping it to 75 (65 or 70 is also ok) is an unbelievable difference. There I realized the first time that the fatigue matters to the CPU. At 45 or 50 the CPU never pulled pitcher's because of their count, always only when they were rattled.

[mkharsh33]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

One problem, though...and it's a HUGE problem:

There is no separate slider for user and cpu. I had requested this at the official 2K forums for the last couple years, but to no avail.

you can do what you did (bumping it to 75), but beware that you will see extra base hits, most notably homeruns, start getting jacked out at alarming rates by about the 5th and 6th innings.

this is just a game flaw we'll have to live with. If we could separate those two sliders out for both user AND cpu, this game would be great... But we can't.

[Fiddy]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

i tend to bump the pitcher fatigue slider to 55 or 60 at times.. again, i like to play games in a quick manner a lot, so obviously it set at 45 or 50 the cpu wont get to the pen much..

[duhitsrandy]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Interesting. My games are routinely under 100 pitches each team and the bullpen is being under-utilized. If I bump fatigue to 55, from 50, will the CPU go to the bullpen when the pitcher becomes less effective due to fatigue or will it stick it out to whatever the PC is, for example 110? I am thinking fatigued earlier = less effective earlier = more runs = bullpen called upon. Make sense?

if the number is higher the pitcher will lose effictiveness alot sooner, but that doesn't necessarily mean he will get pulled sooner. by inning 5 or 6 he could be throwing some really fat pitchers but the cpu really only manages its rotation/bullpen by pitch count, or if the pitcher gives up a ton of runs.

[kpkpkp]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

if the number is higher the pitcher will lose effictiveness alot sooner, but that doesn't necessarily mean he will get pulled sooner. by inning 5 or 6 he could be throwing some really fat pitchers but the cpu really only manages its rotation/bullpen by pitch count, or if the pitcher gives up a ton of runs.

This has been my experience. (That the CPU pulls pitchers based on pitch count. And obviously other factors like composure, ER's, save opportunities...etc etc)

So if you were to max fatigue for pitchers both teams (as MKharsh said) would tire super fast while PC's wouldn't change. So CPU pitchers would be left in based on their PC which means by the 4th or 5th inning they would be throwing lotsa meatballs. Even though they get kept in since their PC might still be low their fatigue would have them drained very quickly. Totally screwing up CPU pitcher management.

I would advise against going too high to avoid this.

Of course the opposite could happen if you lowered it too much. Pitchers would still be hitting their velocities and locations well, but the CPU will yank 'em based on PC.

I think depending on preference anything between 40 to 60 is reasonable and wont mess up the games AI since the games AI is based around PC.

I went with 45 for a while but my MR, SU, and Closers weren't fatigued enough after games where I had used them for 2 or more innings. Meaning I could use MR or SU guys in back to back games for 2 innings at a time. This is something that almost never happens in real life. So to avoid this I ended up putting fatigue back to the default of 50... :P

If it were me I would just stick with 50.




Buuuut none of this has anything to do with OP's question.... He or She was mere asking which way is up... Not how it affect's PC's or CPU management.

[bigfnjoe96]

The issue is 2k program fatigue wrong again. Fatigue should matter more than pitch count. Unfortunately it doesn't, especially when it comes to pulling pitchers.

Between 45-60 until a patch hits is the number I would suggest. I also suggest taking pitches as mentioned

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[mkharsh33]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Yeah, I'm now gonna experiment with 55... In a game I played today the CPU pulled their pitcher after 7 innings, then using 2 relievers to close it out. But who knows...

[aykyle]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Didn't someone just say that the fatigue slider isn't for how fast a pitcher tires, but how his pitches are thrown when his energy level gets low?
Like if it was at 100, a pitcher would be throwing as if he had no fatigue at all.
But if it were at 0, a pitcher would be throwing as if he were fatigued.

I saw a post, but didn't read the responses other than people agreeing to him.

But.. if you are using Verlander of the Detroit Tigers. You might as well put it at 0.
That guy can throw a 100mph 3 times in a row after throwing 132 pitches...nuf' said.

[wudl83]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

One problem, though...and it's a HUGE problem:

There is no separate slider for user and cpu. I had requested this at the official 2K forums for the last couple years, but to no avail.

you can do what you did (bumping it to 75), but beware that you will see extra base hits, most notably homeruns, start getting jacked out at alarming rates by about the 5th and 6th innings.

this is just a game flaw we'll have to live with. If we could separate those two sliders out for both user AND cpu, this game would be great... But we can't.

Yap, I know this. In this case you simply have to pull your pitcher at the right time.
Perhaps it depends on personal preferences.

Didn't someone just say that the fatigue slider isn't for how fast a pitcher tires, but how his pitches are thrown when his energy level gets low?
Like if it was at 100, a pitcher would be throwing as if he had no fatigue at all.
But if it were at 0, a pitcher would be throwing as if he were fatigued.

I saw a post, but didn't read the responses other than people agreeing to him.

But.. if you are using Verlander of the Detroit Tigers. You might as well put it at 0.
That guy can throw a 100mph 3 times in a row after throwing 132 pitches...nuf' said.

If it would be so, then you have to interchange the two numbers. At 0 you would see no difference, at 100 you would see a big difference.

[aykyle]

Re: Pitcher Fatigue Slider- which way makes pitcher tire sooner?

Ya your right. I forgot what the slider said under it:

"Modify fatigue effect for pitchers on user and CPU controlled teams"
Meaning what that one kid said. It only alters how the pitches are thrown when a pitcher is fatigued. If set at 100, every pitch would be as if the pitcher was fatigued. If at 0, every pitch would be as if he had 100 Energy left.

So I don't know why you guys are saying the slider effects how FAST a pitcher fatigues. When it doesn't.