Jeter...the face of Baseball?

[Tha Dynasty]

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IMO I think his teammate ARod is the face of baseball. For one thing ARod is the highest paid player in baseball history and could be the best of all time in the future. Jeter is kind of just there after winning all those years. ARod imo has wayyyy more talent then Jeter. Very debatable but I just dont agree

[SportsTop]

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IMO I think his teammate ARod is the face of baseball. For one thing ARod is the highest paid player in baseball history and could be the best of all time in the future. Jeter is kind of just there after winning all those years. ARod imo has wayyyy more talent then Jeter. Very debatable but I just dont agree

It's called being a winner.

Having all the talent in the world doesn't win championships or make you a leader. Jeter has that intangible that is attained by only the very elite athletes (Jordan, Montana, Magic, etc.)

[bravosfan]

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Jeter has a nice face, a rugged face, a handsome face, equal parts black and white, the son of a black father and white mother who had simple rules for him in high school, including being home by 10 p.m. every night and eating his lunch every day. He was taught well, and he has never forgotten his lessons. That's why he is such a good player and team captain. That's why he is the face of baseball.

I think someone has a man-crush...

Jeter's a good player, no doubt, but I think the media is just a little too much in love with him. I really hate how every good/great play he makes is magnified 1000x. Why don't they show the errors he makes, or the balls he doesn't even get to? Oh that's right, I forgot. "Jetes" doesn't make errors, he's perfect in every way.

[deeman11747]

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I think someone has a man-crush...

Jeter's a good player, no doubt, but I think the media is just a little too much in love with him. I really hate how every good/great play he makes is magnified 1000x. Why don't they show the errors he makes, or the balls he doesn't even get to? Oh that's right, I forgot. "Jetes" doesn't make errors, he's perfect in every way.

Someone seems to be somewhat of a Jeter *****...


Obviously being a Yankee fan... I love Jeter but watching him every day allows me to watch him make the plays which forces me to question why he gets knocked for his fielding...

He makes that great ball in the whole jump turn in midair throw that I havent seen anyone else in the league besides Furcal, Izturis, and Vizquel make.

He has unbelivable range to his right and so-so to his left. His arm gets underrated imo because I see him routinely make bang bang plays on slow rollers to him that he throws lasers off balanced to first. His arm accuracy is questionale at times but I stil don't understand why he gets knocked so much.

I've seen all of those complicated statistcal formulas that show his range is average and blah blah blah.... but you wont see any other player dive into the stands... catch a ball over his teammated... fall into the stands catching a foul ball in the playoffs... and making on of the greatest defensive plays in the history of playoff baseball... that saved the 2001 ALDS for us.


Besides the fact that hes a leader... a media sweetheart... unselfish... and an all around winner along with an unbelievable clutch hitter.. along with playing in the media market of the world... I see him as the face of baseball maybe along with some other rising stars such as Pujols, Guerrero, and others.

[TheLetterZ]

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I don't like Jeter and I think he's overrated, but I can't really deny that he's the face of baseball.

[bravosfan]

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...and if somebody else had made that play, you'd have seen it once and never again. Not that it wasn't a great play...

I guess I have less a problem with Jeter than I do the media's adulation of him. The paragraph I quoted above is a perfect example of that.

[Tha Dynasty]

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You guys were lucky he didnt slide

[Karlos05]

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I don't like Jeter and I think he's overrated, but I can't really deny that he's the face of baseball.

My feeling exactly

[NYJets]

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I don't think there really is one player who is the face of baseball, at least right now. NBA had Jordan, and pretty soon it's looking like Lebron. NFL, Brady. When I think of MLB, there isn't really one player who comes to mind.

[SportsTop]

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I can't understand how anyone can think Jeter is overrated. A career .315 hitter. There is one SS in all of baseball that has the Jeter's offensive output (Tejada).

There is something to be said for leadership. Jeter epitomizes what being a leader is all about and that is why he will always be a winner.

The media and the public will always flock to winners.

[deeman11747]

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I don't understand why Jeter constantly gets booed on the road... is it because hes just a good player and good players constantly get booed.. or do fans of other teams just have a general dislike for him?

[dacubys]

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the face of baseball is that of a homosexual ........oh my

[NYJets]

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the face of baseball is that of a homosexual ........oh my

[DuffysCliff]

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I know whatever I say I'll just be another Red Sox' homer who hates Jeter, even though I'm really not, but whatever.

Someone seems to be somewhat of a Jeter *****...


Obviously being a Yankee fan... I love Jeter but watching him every day allows me to watch him make the plays which forces me to question why he gets knocked for his fielding...

He makes that great ball in the whole jump turn in midair throw that I havent seen anyone else in the league besides Furcal, Izturis, and Vizquel make.

I am almost positive that at least half of the shortstops in the league can make that play. Doesn't mean all do though, different shortstops have different styles. All you really need is a great arm, and most shortstops do, as does Jeter, although he is probably in the top ten for arm strength for shortstops. Just because he basically patented that play, doesn't mean he is the one of the only one's who can do it. I saw Renteria make that play in a game against Detriot I think, and Jeter has a stronger arm then him. My point? It's all in the arm, not so much all around defensive abilities.

He has unbelivable range to his right and so-so to his left. His arm gets underrated imo because I see him routinely make bang bang plays on slow rollers to him that he throws lasers off balanced to first. His arm accuracy is questionale at times but I stil don't understand why he gets knocked so much.

I think from all of the reports I've heard is that Jeter doesn't have a very good first step, thus he doesn't have that great of range, especially bad to his left. From what I've seen of his play in the field in Red Sox vs. Yankees game, it does seem like he has below average range.

I've seen all of those complicated statistcal formulas that show his range is average and blah blah blah.... but you wont see any other player dive into the stands... catch a ball over his teammated... fall into the stands catching a foul ball in the playoffs... and making on of the greatest defensive plays in the history of playoff baseball... that saved the 2001 ALDS for us. .

You want to know what I think of all these plays? I think they were great... but I'm still going to tell you about how they are not that great, and how Jeter is not the only player able to make them. And I'm going to take a very objective approach.

In the same famous "Nomar sits-Jeter dives into the stands" Pokey Reese made a very similar play to Jeter's play. He even fell into the stands. Not running full speed though, because he is faster than Jeter so he got to the ball quicker, caught it, and slowed down some, then tumbled into the stands. It could be said that if Jeter had better range he wouldn't have had to go diving head first into the stands, or he could have just slid after making the catch. But he didn't, and he didn't slow up at all, so it was still a very gutsy play.

On the play where Jeter makes the catch over Cano, either one of them could have made the catch anyways and it's not like Jeter saw Cano and put his glove over Cano's just because he wanted to, the real feat was him hanging onto the ball, if he had dropped it, wouldn't you be the least bit upset that he essentially took the ball away from Cano.

You can't honestly think Jeter is the only one who's fallen into the stands while making a catch in the playoffs, I'll leave at that.

The play at home against Oakland was pretty lucky, first that Giambi didn't slide, and that Jeter was there in the first place. I guess those are his intangibles though, so I can let that slide.

Besides the fact that hes a leader... a media sweetheart... unselfish... and an all around winner along with an unbelievable clutch hitter.. along with playing in the media market of the world... I see him as the face of baseball maybe along with some other rising stars such as Pujols, Guerrero, and others.

From all of the reports I've heard, Jeter is often the first person out of the locker room, and is usually a very tough interview, because all he spouts is cliches. I don't know how unselfish he is when he makes 20 million dollars a year. Then again though, if someone offered me that kind of money, I wouldn't turn it down. You can make the same argument with Jeter that you can with Brady on the whole winner thing, but I won't, because it's been made enough times before. I tend to agree with both sides, if you put Jeter on the Devil Rays, he won't be as much as a winner. Although, A-Rod is a damn good player, but it didn't seem to hurt the Rangers or Seattle when he left.

Is he the face of baseball? I think so. Are others more deserving? Probably. Maybe for the American market Jeter works, while maybe Ortiz or Tejada would work better with the Latin American market.

[NYJets]

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I agree with some of what you said, especially about his range, and the hopping into the outfield throw he makes, but completely disagree with a lot of it too.

For the diving into the crowd play, I agree a lot of guys would have made the catch without diving into the crowd, and in some ways the play was overated (didn't deserve to be the play of the year last year). However, I do think most players would have slowed down and not caught the ball if catching it would have meant going full speed into the crowd. I remember a play in the a Yankees-Orioles game early in the year on a simliarly hit ball that Tejada slowed down quite a bit when he got near the wall, allowing it to fall in for a ground rule double. Wasn't the greatest play ever, but it showed a lot of toughness and he looked fearless.

The catch over Cano was a very nice catch, but nothing to amazing about it, just a normal highlight reel play. I don't think that one has really gotten that much hype though, could be wrong.

I don't see how anyone could consider the Oakland play overated. Jeter was not lucky to be there. He didn't trip and fall right where the ball happened to go. He read that the ball was going to miss the cut off man, and sprinted across the field to get there. Sure, if Giambi slides, he's safe, but if Jeter doesn't make a play that I have never seen any other shortstop make before, than him not sliding isn't an issue. He showed amazing instincts to make that play.

I agree if he was a Devil Ray, he wouldn't be known as a "winner," but that is kind of unfair, as in baseball one player can only do so much. He does usually use a lot of cliches in interviews, but I have never heard of the media having a real problem with him, or him leaving earlier than everyone else. And you can't hold the money he's making against him, at the time that was fair market value, and it wasn't a real lengthy negotiation.