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  • VanCitySportsGuy
    NYG_Meth
    • Feb 2003
    • 9351

    #1

    Adan Dunn on the trading block???



    I know Rosenthal was just throwing out offers but boy are they lopsided.

    If I'm the Reds GM, I wouldn't bite on any of those trades. If the Stros called me up for Dunn, the conversation starts with Oswalt going the other way. No Oswalt, no deal.

    You can't trade Dunn unless at least a number 1 starter is coming the other way. Dunn is still controlled by his club for 2 more years before he becomes a FA.

    As a Jays fan I would glady give up Wells and any pitching prospect (or Bush or Chacin) they want for Dunn.
    Last edited by VanCitySportsGuy; 06-30-2005, 02:27 PM.
  • Stu
    All Star
    • Jun 2004
    • 7924

    #2
    Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

    Originally posted by asianflow
    You can't trade Dunn unless at least a number 1 starter is coming the other way. Dunn is still controlled by his club for 2 more years before he becomes a FA.
    I think they'll move him for less than that. The Reds aren't going to win anytime in the next 2 years and chances are Dunn will be gone. It makes sense to trade him while they can get something for him instead of being stubborn about it and getting nothing in return.
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    • RedsFan75
      Pro
      • Mar 2004
      • 587

      #3
      Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

      They won't get a number 1 and his arbitration salary will hit the 8 mil or higher range. Take 3 or 4 good prospects and reload the farm system...... (forest gump voice) Again. (/Forest Gump Voice)

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      • Alliball
        MVP
        • Aug 2004
        • 2368

        #4
        Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

        I'm sorry, but no way in hell is a guy that will wiff over 150 times worth a #1 starter. Honestly, would you give up a Peavy for a Dunn? Hell no, hell no, hell no.

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        • VanCitySportsGuy
          NYG_Meth
          • Feb 2003
          • 9351

          #5
          Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

          I don't think the Reds will get a number 1 starter for Dunn but that's what they should be asking for.

          A slugger of his ilk at his age is very rare. I know he strikes out a lot but his power more than makes up for it.

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          • Alliball
            MVP
            • Aug 2004
            • 2368

            #6
            Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

            Originally posted by asianflow
            I don't think the Reds will get a number 1 starter for Dunn but that's what they should be asking for.

            A slugger of his ilk at his age is very rare. I know he strikes out a lot but his power more than makes up for it.
            Why bother asking if you know you're not going to get it? I understand the start high and work from there theory, but not with Dunn. There are some really stupid GM's in the majors, but none stupid enough to give up a top flight pitcher for a K machine like Dunn.

            Being a Padre fan, I wouldn't even give up Eaton for a guy like Dunn.

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            • CoRruPt-
              MVP
              • Jun 2005
              • 1279

              #7
              Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

              They would move him now for a lot less... who knows how good this guy will be in 1, 2 years? His season has been great so far, but he could very well struggle the next 2 seasons, and he would be worth nothing, and the Reds would be stuck while they're trying to rebuild with his contract around.

              Peavy for Dunn... not a chance. San Diego isn't really struggling right now, they don't need help.

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              • VanCitySportsGuy
                NYG_Meth
                • Feb 2003
                • 9351

                #8
                Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                Originally posted by Alliball
                Why bother asking if you know you're not going to get it? I understand the start high and work from there theory, but not with Dunn. There are some really stupid GM's in the majors, but none stupid enough to give up a top flight pitcher for a K machine like Dunn.

                Being a Padre fan, I wouldn't even give up Eaton for a guy like Dunn.
                It never hurts to ask. In any negotiation (not just talking about sports) it's always best to start high and work from there.

                I'm going to feel sorry for Red fans if Dunn gets dumped for 75 cents on the dollar.

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                • rsox
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6309

                  #9
                  Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                  The Reds are likely to deal Ken Griffey Jr., Sean Casey and Joe Randa before they would seriousley consider trading Adam Dunn, and calling those deals lopsided is an understatement!. Dunn to the Cubs for Sergio Mitre and Todd Wellemeyer?, they might as well just give him to the Cubs.

                  When the Reds took away his massage chair Dunn mentioned something about how he would rather play somewhere else but it will take one heck of a package to make that happen.

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                  • CoRruPt-
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1279

                    #10
                    Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                    Hmm, I don't know about Griffey, he's getting old and he's quite injury prone over the last few years.

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                    • dce1228
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1016

                      #11
                      Re: Adam Dunn on the trading block???

                      [QUOTE=asianflow] If I'm the Reds GM, I wouldn't bite on any of those trades. If the Stros called me up for Dunn, the conversation starts with Oswalt going the other way. No Oswalt, no deal. [QUOTE]

                      If Dunn played gold-glove OF or could steal 30 bases maybe he'd be worth Roy Oswalt straight-up, but c'mon... a home-run is a home-run whether it's hit 370 or 470 feet... The talk for Roy Oswalt needs to start at ADAM DUNN then the Reds can add a player or two-- but it wouldn't, because the Astros wouldn't make this trade. Don't diss Oswalt. So, he's 5 foot 10 or whatever, he still kicks ***.

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                      • DuffysCliff
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 294

                        #12
                        Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                        Originally posted by Alliball
                        Why bother asking if you know you're not going to get it? I understand the start high and work from there theory, but not with Dunn. There are some really stupid GM's in the majors, but none stupid enough to give up a top flight pitcher for a K machine like Dunn.

                        Being a Padre fan, I wouldn't even give up Eaton for a guy like Dunn.
                        It's a good thing your not a GM then. He's 25 years old, hit 46 home runs last year, on pace to hit over 40 this year. and still gets on base at a .380 clip, and it could be even better than that (had a .400 OBP% as a 22 year old). Besides, I rather him strikeout with a runner on first and one out than him ground into a double play.

                        I'd kill to have him on the Red Sox. A 3-4-5 of Ortiz-Ramirez-Dunn would be deadly. Plus he'd solve our problems at first base. He's probably the only non-pitcher who's available I would give Hanley Ramirez up for. Even then I'd only give up Hanley to a select group of pitchers.

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                        • Alliball
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2368

                          #13
                          Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                          Originally posted by DuffysCliff
                          It's a good thing your not a GM then. He's 25 years old, hit 46 home runs last year, on pace to hit over 40 this year. and still gets on base at a .380 clip, and it could be even better than that (had a .400 OBP% as a 22 year old). Besides, I rather him strikeout with a runner on first and one out than him ground into a double play.

                          I'd kill to have him on the Red Sox. A 3-4-5 of Ortiz-Ramirez-Dunn would be deadly. Plus he'd solve our problems at first base. He's probably the only non-pitcher who's available I would give Hanley Ramirez up for. Even then I'd only give up Hanley to a select group of pitchers.
                          Good to very good young pitchers are much harder to come buy than young sluggers. That being said, good thing you're not a GM.

                          I'll ask this one more time. Would you give up a Jake Peavy for an Adam Dunn?

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                          • Vince
                            Bow for Bau
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26017

                            #14
                            Re: Adan Dunn on the trading block???

                            His K numbers are redundant due to the fact that he walks at a high clip. I'd love for the Jays to get him so he could finally go to first base and we can deal the useless Eric Hinske.
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