Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

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  • glucklich
    Banned
    • Jun 2004
    • 4272

    #31
    Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

    Originally posted by ILLCHILL
    Well your first comment kicked my arguement in the nuts and jammed its rectum with a pole. Nice coming up with that.

    But like it or not, Ortiz is a power hitter with a huge smile and loves to have a good time on the field and plays for Boston. Ichiro is a small singles hitter and, again, plays for Seattle.

    I would rather have 9 Ichiro's on my team than 9 Ortiz's, but talking about marketability, Ortiz over Ichiro no-contest.
    Many people dont even watch regular season baseball but watch the post season...enter David Ortiz and exit Ichiro Suzuki. Seriously...plus on top of that, Ortiz plays all of his games againts the Yankees on national television while Ichiro is banished to the NW in the pacific timezone. If someones going to be marketable, doesnt that imply that he also has to be seen? Also, for every Yankee fan theres someone who hates the Yankees and Ortiz is a likeable Yankee killer.

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    • DuffysCliff
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      • Jan 2004
      • 294

      #32
      Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

      Originally posted by ILLCHILL
      Meh, I don't know about that. My list of personal faces of baseball would be quite a few guys deep before I found a 'white' one aside from Jeter. But America is more multi-ethnic than Venuzuela or Japan, so I don't really have the same perspective as someone from another country I suppose.

      Your right, America is more multi ethnic, so it's not all about nationalities here and more about markets. Squint brought up the point that Ortiz is probably just the face of baseball for those of us in New England and he's most likely right. New England is a pretty 'white' place too. Jeter is definitely the face of New York baseball, and probably a lot of other places in the US. You go to the Dominican though, and ask who they like more, Jeter or Ortiz, most are going to say Ortiz.

      Meanwhile, back in the US, Bonds could be said to be another face of baseball, but still, the rate of africans americans that pick up a baseball mitt instead of a basketball or football is decreasing each year, so I really don't think ethnicity means a whole lot here.

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      • rsox
        All Star
        • Feb 2003
        • 6309

        #33
        Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

        Barry Bonds will never be the face of Baseball because the only thing Barry Bonds cares about is Barry Bonds.

        I'm not a big Jeter fan but i give the guy credit, he puts it all out there on the field every night, by playing hard he puts his team ahead of himself and gives his team a chance to win every game.

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        • SportsTop
          The Few. The Proud.
          • Jul 2003
          • 6716

          #34
          Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

          I'm not stating the Ichiro should be the face of baseball (although he is adored by millions of fans here in the U.S. and Japan). I was making an argument that just because you are the leading vote getter for the All-Star game doesn't make you the face of baseball.....and neither does the size of your smile.

          Ortiz is a likeable player, heck, I like him. Just as I like Ichiro, Cabrera, Jason Bay, and so on. But these guys don't possess that certain je ne sais quos that only the elite players in the games history have had previously.

          There are nearly as many people that live to dislike Jeter as there are that love him. But that's just it, he has that draw about him that people are attracted to, either in a negative or positive way.

          He's young, he's a champion, he's good looking, and plays in the largest city on the one of the biggest stages in the world. That is marketability and that is a key to being the face of baseball.

          Edit: DuffysCliff brings up a point about ethnicity. Jeter doesn't really "fit" into an ethnic category. I mean, he could be white, could be black, heck he could be hispanic. That could be another draw about him....that he appeals to multiple ethnic groups.

          Just one more thing to think about.
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          • Chuck
            MVP
            • May 2003
            • 2121

            #35
            Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

            No. Simple as that really. He's good, but this is a guy the casual fan had no idea who he was for most of his career.
            Last edited by Chuck; 07-08-2005, 11:58 PM.

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            • GBrushTWood
              Banned
              • Mar 2003
              • 1624

              #36
              Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

              What the heck is the point of this thread? How can any human being actually try to argue whether a certain player "is the face" of baseball? This is not quantifiable information, it's basically arguing people's opinions. What am I missing here?

              Red Sox and Yankee fans are so ethno-centric, it's just revolting.

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              • elicoleman
                Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                • Sep 2002
                • 34655

                #37
                Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                Ortiz has had two good years....come on now, I hope this thread was a joke.

                Most people didn't even know who this ogre was up in Minnesota.
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                • kweiss
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1886

                  #38
                  Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                  Originally posted by GBrushTWood
                  What the heck is the point of this thread? How can any human being actually try to argue whether a certain player "is the face" of baseball? This is not quantifiable information, it's basically arguing people's opinions. What am I missing here?
                  Good point, but it's all in fun.

                  Anyway, back on topic. Here's the view of a neutral observer completely separate from the East Coast. To be honest, I don't even know if Ortiz is the face of the Boston Red Sox. To me, that title still belongs to Manny Ramirez.

                  I see Ortiz as the face of their 2004 Playoff run, no doubt, but when I think Red Sox, I still think Manny Ramirez. Him and Pedro were the faces of the Red Sox for the last 5 or so years, and now that Pedro has left town, it's all Manny. He's been there way too long to just be pushed aside by Ortiz in just one good season.

                  Kind of tough to be the face of baseball when you're not even the face of your team.

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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52920

                    #39
                    Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                    There are three names that most EVERYONE recognizes in society. Not just fans, not just sports fans, but people in general. If I asked a random person off the street, chances are that they'll know these names before David Ortiz...

                    Barry Bonds
                    Derek Jeter
                    Alex Rodriguez

                    I dont think it will be ANY other way for a long, long time.

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                    • Vince
                      Bow for Bau
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26017

                      #40
                      Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                      Ortiz, face of Baseball?

                      sure why not, I mean, the younger fans will be able to relate to him because of his striking resemblance to 50 cent



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                      • SportsTop
                        The Few. The Proud.
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 6716

                        #41
                        Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                        Originally posted by GBrushTWood
                        What the heck is the point of this thread? How can any human being actually try to argue whether a certain player "is the face" of baseball? This is not quantifiable information, it's basically arguing people's opinions. What am I missing here?

                        Red Sox and Yankee fans are so ethno-centric, it's just revolting.
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                        • DuffysCliff
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 294

                          #42
                          Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                          Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                          Ortiz, face of Baseball?

                          sure why not, I mean, the younger fans will be able to relate to him because of his striking resemblance to 50 cent




                          I was thinking more towards Esther Rolle from Good Times. The resemblance is almost incredible.



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                          • SportsTop
                            The Few. The Proud.
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6716

                            #43
                            Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                            Originally posted by DuffysCliff
                            I was thinking more towards Esther Rolle from Good Times. The resemblance is almost incredible.





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                            • ILLCHILL
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 2820

                              #44
                              Re: Is David Ortiz the new face of baseball?

                              Originally posted by GBrushTWood
                              What the heck is the point of this thread? How can any human being actually try to argue whether a certain player "is the face" of baseball? This is not quantifiable information, it's basically arguing people's opinions. What am I missing here?

                              Red Sox and Yankee fans are so ethno-centric, it's just revolting.
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