Jim Thome is on the trading block

[rsox]

Re: Jim Thome is on the trading block

Thome has a no-trade clause and in an interview today refused to comment on if there is any team he would waive it for. There are quite a few teams that could use Thome's bat, the Angels, Dodgers, Mets even the Rangers but with the money he is owed over the next 3 plus seasons i don't see any team taking him on unless the Phillies pony up a lot of cash to help move him.

[SPTO]

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Too bad the salary is so high cuz if I were the Jays i'd take a flyer on him and designate Hinske to AAA. Hinske has fallen so low that he's now the #8 hitter in the lineup "sigh"

[TheLetterZ]

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If he proves he can be healthy and if it wouldn't take a kings ransom to get him(basically if it wouldn't take any of our top 5 prospects) I don't see why we wouldn't do this.

Top 5 prospects? You can have him for a cup of Fenway Park infield dirt.

And Vinceanity, change your damn avatar.

[dieselboy]

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Too bad the salary is so high cuz if I were the Jays i'd take a flyer on him and designate Hinske to AAA. Hinske has fallen so low that he's now the #8 hitter in the lineup "sigh"

Its funny how everyone jumped back on the Hinske bandwagon after he had a good two months of the season, and now he is back to where he has been the past two seasons. He has done nothing but regress year by year.

[bravosfan]

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3 years at 48 million. Unless the Phillies are going to pay a huge amount of that Salary, Thome-Time is going to sticking in Philadelphia.

I know this would never happen, but that's pretty close to what Mike Hampton has left on his contract. Won't happen, but it's fun to think about.

[remix]

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Thome nor his large contract aren't moving anywhere. Mike Sweeney also has a large contract and noone is willing to deal with either of them.

[TheLetterZ]

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I know this would never happen, but that's pretty close to what Mike Hampton has left on his contract. Won't happen, but it's fun to think about.

At least Hampton can hit.

[cable guy]

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At 15 million dollars a year, the Phillies are going to have to pick up half his salary.

[Vince]

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Its funny how everyone jumped back on the Hinske bandwagon after he had a good two months of the season, and now he is back to where he has been the past two seasons. He has done nothing but regress year by year.

Hinske is garbage. a chimpanzee could hit better with RISP than Hinske...

Anyway, Thome is not in our sights I don't think. I think teams are more in line to trade for Adam Dunn because his salary is modest and he's around 8 years younger.

[Jimplication]

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I am not really a fan of Ryan Howard complaining about playing time and demanding a trade, just because he is behind Thome.

He might be able to hit, but he is still a rookie, and should just shut up and do what he is told until he has leverage to use in his favor.

Thome has had only positive things to say about Philly, and has been a positive influence on the team, and yet he is the one on the trade block after Howard starts whining?

Sounds ridiculous to me.

The Phillies are great at trading away talent so it can go elsewhere and find success. Thome would just be the next in line if it happens.

Schilling, Rolen.. and now Thome. Throw in Burrell and Wagner, and Ed Wade's legacy will be timeless, for the wrong reasons.

[dieselboy]

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At least Hampton can hit.

Ba-ZING!

[rsox]

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Thome nor his large contract aren't moving anywhere. Mike Sweeney also has a large contract and noone is willing to deal with either of them.

The Rangers would love to get Sweeney, the Dodgers have also been said to be interested so there are teams interested in Sweeney.

[Programmed2Kill]

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I am not really a fan of Ryan Howard complaining about playing time and demanding a trade, just because he is behind Thome.

He might be able to hit, but he is still a rookie, and should just shut up and do what he is told until he has leverage to use in his favor.

Thome has had only positive things to say about Philly, and has been a positive influence on the team, and yet he is the one on the trade block after Howard starts whining?

Sounds ridiculous to me.

The Phillies are great at trading away talent so it can go elsewhere and find success. Thome would just be the next in line if it happens.

Schilling, Rolen.. and now Thome. Throw in Burrell and Wagner, and Ed Wade's legacy will be timeless, for the wrong reasons.

Actually...Howard and his agent looked for a trade a long time ago, closer to the beginning of the season...Howard then went on as usual and put up those big time numbers that everyone was amazed about. So it's not like all that just happened recently. He has shut up and has produced.


As for Thome...I'm sure he is a nice person and all, but he isn't a saint, either. He was pivotal in Bowa's firing. And he was pivotal in Charlie Manuel's hiring. Larry Bowa wasn't the greatest manager, but he was a darn good one...and because of Thome and his "influence" amongst the player, he was fired. Can't have some manager that actually tries lighting a fire under your ***, huh?

So now the Phillies find themselves in a pickle. They couldn't trade Howard because they asked for too much in return. Now they will have a hard time trading Thome because of his contract and...well...it look like he's lost it. They should've traded Howard two years ago or last year. Teams are still asking for him now, but Wade keeps turning them down and saying "how about Thome instead?".

I hope they do trade Thome. He wasn't producing at all this season. Get Howard in there full-time and let him rip the cover off the ball. He's already going to be 26 by the end of the year. They almost waited too long to get Utley in the lineup. Dummies.

Schilling didn't want to be here and I didn't blame him one bit. The Phillies are a loser franchise with loser ownership and a loser president and a loser GM. He asked for them to help him out by getting a star, preferablly a superstar and Wade wasn't about to do that and the ownership weren't about to pay up for one. So Schill wanted a trade.

What did Wade get in return? Travis Lee, Omar Daal, Nelson Figueroa and Vicente Padilla. Lee was a bust in 'Zona. Why did they even trade for him in the first place? Daal was a 5th starter at best. Figueroa Who? Padilla...whom they STILL don't know how to use yet.

Rolen did not want to be in Philly anymore. For once, the ownership were going to dish out money for someone...they offered Rolen over $100 million and he turned it down. He was a country kid in a big city that does not tolerate losing. He hated it here and did not like the fans booing, even if the team sucked.

Wade in return for Rolen, a future HoF'er: Placido Polanco, Bud Smith and Mike Timlin. What a great trade.[/sarcasm] Polanco is a good player and I wish he was still here playing 3rd base instead of David Bell...but if that is ALL you got for Scott Rolen...then something is wrong.

Billy Wagner...I don't want to trade, but even he is fed up with his teammates and the front office. He is definitely not going to resign, so Wade has to trade him. And if he doesn't get anything really good back in return, with all these playoff teams looking for a closer, then Wade should be fired on the spot. He better get someone's Top 100 prospect who can be in the majors right now and some other valuable prospects.

Pat Burrell...I would;ve traded him last year. Maybe two years ago. I like the guy and all...but he never progressed into the hitter he should've been. He strikes out entirely too much for someone coming out of a great program like Miami known as a great hitter. He is having a good season numbers-wise now, but it's all hollow. He should be Miguel Cabrera by now, but Cabrera is so much better than him, it's not even funny. There are two reasons why the Phillies did not hire Jim Leyland for manager: 1.) Leyland will never be a front office pet, unlike Manuel...and 2.) one of the first things he wanted done was for Pat Burrell to be traded. Telling, eh?

[remix]

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The Rangers would love to get Sweeney, the Dodgers have also been said to be interested so there are teams interested in Sweeney.

I never said that people weren't interested in them. The fact that they have huge contracts will prevent them moving. The Angels had been interested in Sweeney for a long time and he'd already an Angel if not for his contract. I don't know why the Rangers would really want Sweeney afterall they do have Teixera at 1st and Delucci at DH.

[rsox]

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The Rangers would take on all of Sweeney's salary but since Royals ownership has told GM Allard Baird he does not have to trade Sweeney it will take a heck of a good deal to get him. The Rangers want Sweeney to be a DH , they would much rather use Dellucci in the field since he can play all three Outfield positions very well.

It doesn't make sense that with the lineup the Rangers have why they would want to add another bat when clearly they need another starting pitcher but that same argument can be used on the Baltimore Orioles who have had interest in Sweeney and Todd Helton and could get in to Thome rumors when what the Orioles really need is starting pitching