Is Ozzie Guillen a good manager?

[glucklich]

Re: Is Ozzie Guillen a good manager?

This is exactly my point though. The White Sox didn't score as many runs as they could have if they didnt play small ball all the time with the top of their order. By constantly attempting to steal bases and bunt they take potential runs off the basepaths.

Is it really the total that matters or being able to score with consistency. Would you rather score 5 runs three games in a row, or would you rather score 14 then 2 and three? The former scenario gives you a better chance to win ALL three games even though in total you didnt score as many. So how many runs are actually relevant in winning? Thats whats most important. Another aspect of playing small ball is that teams who play small ball are often teams that have speed...which leads to better defense. Its about preventing runs too. Having Podsednik out there defensively and losing Valentine for Uribe are serious upgrades.

I would say the White Sox offense is lean but in a good way. Also, if there was ever an example of a team that played small ball it was the Cardinals of the mid 80s. Jack Clark used to drive in his share of runs.

[Dice]

Re: Is Ozzie Guillen a good manager?

Whether they score 8 runs or score 2 runs, it really doesn't matter. As long as they win. It's the only stat that matters.

And they have 99 of them and the AL Pennant.

[wxkid23]

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Im not going to fault Ozzie, he is in the WS.

Being a Sox fan, I don't really go one or the other with Ozzie. I liked him as a player, he has always had a "better than you" ego though. I think his greatest asset is keeping everything in the clubhouse very relaxed and if you may "fun".. I think his ability to do that is highly underrated and allows a much different clubhouse setting than most other teams. His overall managing ability is average IMO... he is however a second year manager and for a former bench coach to take a team to the WS in 2 years is very very good.

My biggest complaint? The man needs to learn to focus on the game 24/7. I know I am not the only person to realize this either. From his former playing days, Ozzie had a fascination with looking up in the crowd consistently at the "ladies".. he still does that to this day but rather in the dugout.. I have seen him countless times (literally 50% of the time the camera shows him) looking in the crowd and not at the game. Im not saying this is a HUGE problem but cmon.. your being paid money to do your job.. keep your head in the game.

All in all... he is in the WS!

[inkcil]

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No responses on "Ragin" Juan?

[wxkid23]

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No responses on "Ragin" Juan?

I don't know why he looks mad, but I do know he has been called out more than a few times the last few years (Colorado and Chicago) for being lazy on the field... maybe he needs an attitude adjustment lol.

[Stu]

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Whether they score 8 runs or score 2 runs, it really doesn't matter. As long as they win. It's the only stat that matters.

They're not always going to have the best pitching staff in the AL to carry them. Whatever though. I can't argue with somebody who isn't capable of saying anything negative about their team.

[Dice]

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They're not always going to have the best pitching staff in the AL to carry them. Whatever though. I can't argue with somebody who isn't capable of saying anything negative about their team.

And I can't argue with someone who stretches a mile out of an inch. Every manager can be second guessed. EVERY MANAGER. But a substantial difference between a manager who makes a decision that cost them the game TO A MANAGER who makes a decision to cost them runs BUT STILL WINS THE GAME is the difference between an average/below average manager to a Manager of the Year Candidate.

Not trying to get into an argument with you but it seems like your pushing the phrase of "They can do better" a little too far. Of course every team can do better. If there was any team in history that can do the impossible task of going 162-0 and win the World Series then the pharse of "They can do better" is moot. Every team has a weakness, including the Sox. And the difference between a average/below average team to a contender is how your team can overcome that weakness. And I think Ozzie and the Sox have done an execellent job of doing that.

[Stu]

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I think you're misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I don't think Ozzie is a bad manager, in fact I think he's very good.

All I'm saying is I don't like the small ball style of play he uses with the top of his order. I strongly believe that managers should let their best hitters hit, which Ozzie doesn't do. The White Sox had their worst offensive year in the last 10 years and I think this is a big reason why. Its beyond my level of statistical ability to try to calculate which runs were important and which weren't so all I have to go off are the total numbers.

Either way, I hope the Red Sox sign Paul Konerko away from you guys.

[Dice]

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Either way, I hope the Red Sox sign Paul Konerko away from you guys.

Keep dreaming! Hope the Red Sox are looking to dish out a boat-load of cash cause your not going to get him for a song-and-dance.

[Stu]

Re: Is Ozzie Guillen a good manager?

Keep dreaming! Hope the Red Sox are looking to dish out a boat-load of cash cause your not going to get him for a song-and-dance.

If we can ship out Ramirez, boatloads of cash is exactly what we'll be offering. Even if you overpay for Konerko, he's a bargain compared to the 20+ million Manny is making. That's a big if though.