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  • Ckhoss29
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 980

    #1

    Oooohhhh The Mets

    I come on here every year after the Mets have their yearly star player buyouts they have every year and hear this is the year.

    Robbie Alomar and Mo year everyone was going nuts I was like wait and see.
    They saw the Mets have not so good of a year to put it nicely.

    Every year it is like that, they are all over the hot stove reports everywhere for every deal or free agent that is available.

    The problem with them is they need to bring in a GM that knows about talent not relying on fantasy baseball to give the team he needs.

    That is just my 2 cents and had to get it off my chest.
  • dkgojackets
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 13816

    #2
    Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

    What are you smoking? They got the 6th place MVP finisher for nothing.

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    • nyisles16
      All Star
      • Apr 2003
      • 8317

      #3
      Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

      Originally posted by Ckhoss29
      I come on here every year after the Mets have their yearly star player buyouts they have every year and hear this is the year.

      Robbie Alomar and Mo year everyone was going nuts I was like wait and see.
      They saw the Mets have not so good of a year to put it nicely.

      Every year it is like that, they are all over the hot stove reports everywhere for every deal or free agent that is available.

      The problem with them is they need to bring in a GM that knows about talent not relying on fantasy baseball to give the team he needs.

      That is just my 2 cents and had to get it off my chest.


      well when ya finish in the tank for the past few years, & the fact that you play in the same city as the "uber Yanks", yes - they need to be involved to get their fan base interested & field a competitive team.. - i rather have a team (and an agressive GM) go after players rather than doing an "open christmas shopping" with their team.. heck, i am suprised that the Marlins didn't include a Xbox 360 bundle in the two trades they made... Miyana also happens to be a brilliant GM, much more so than anyone the Mets had after Frank Cashman left.. ps- i also thought that the Mo (or Mooooooo) deal was a bad one.. but they say "you take the good with the bad"..

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      • EWRMETS
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 7491

        #4
        Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

        Originally posted by Ckhoss29
        I come on here every year after the Mets have their yearly star player buyouts they have every year and hear this is the year.

        Robbie Alomar and Mo year everyone was going nuts I was like wait and see.
        They saw the Mets have not so good of a year to put it nicely.

        Every year it is like that, they are all over the hot stove reports everywhere for every deal or free agent that is available.

        The problem with them is they need to bring in a GM that knows about talent not relying on fantasy baseball to give the team he needs.

        That is just my 2 cents and had to get it off my chest.
        Yeah becuase acquiring Pedro, Beltran and Delgado in a 2 year span shows that Omar knows nothing about talent.

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        • soltrain
          The Batman
          • Feb 2003
          • 6863

          #5
          Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

          Originally posted by EWRMETS
          Yeah becuase acquiring Pedro, Beltran and Delgado in a 2 year span shows that Omar knows nothing about talent.


          Those are can't miss guys who are already proven. Lets see what happens when his DRAFTED talent starts coming up the pipeline.
          Michigan Wolverines
          Chicago White Sox

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          • nyisles16
            All Star
            • Apr 2003
            • 8317

            #6
            Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

            Originally posted by soltrain
            Those are can't miss guys who are already proven. Lets see what happens when his DRAFTED talent starts coming up the pipeline.
            *cough, cough* David Wright *cough, cough* Jose Reyes... & potentially Heillman right now...

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            • Stoud
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 1259

              #7
              Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

              Originally posted by EWRMETS
              Yeah becuase acquiring Pedro, Beltran and Delgado in a 2 year span shows that Omar knows nothing about talent.
              No, it shows that he'd rather overpay for old talent that will give him a 35% chance of actual talent for maybe another 3 to 4 years, than to utilize his young talent that will give him an 80% chance for actual talent over then next 10-15 years.

              If you're trying to call that smart, I have to say there must be something wrong with you.

              Personally, I think the guy tries to emulate the Yankees too damn much.

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              • samjjones
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 557

                #8
                Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                Yes, because trying to emulate the winningest franchise in North American sports history is such a HORRIBLE thing.

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                • nyisles16
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 8317

                  #9
                  Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                  Originally posted by Stoud
                  No, it shows that he'd rather overpay for old talent that will give him a 35% chance of actual talent for maybe another 3 to 4 years, than to utilize his young talent that will give him an 80% chance for actual talent over then next 10-15 years.

                  If you're trying to call that smart, I have to say there must be something wrong with you.

                  Personally, I think the guy tries to emulate the Yankees too damn much.

                  hmm... & signing a 1bman last year who missed most of the previous year with an injury & happens to strike out a lot was??? that was lucky that Sexon paid off... & considering the Mets havent done anything since 2000, i say this deal makes sense..

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                  • soltrain
                    The Batman
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6863

                    #10
                    Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                    Originally posted by hulkster29
                    *cough, cough* David Wright *cough, cough* Jose Reyes... & potentially Heillman right now...


                    Omar didn't draft them. Didn't he take over LAST YEAR?
                    Michigan Wolverines
                    Chicago White Sox

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #11
                      Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                      Originally posted by samjjones
                      Yes, because trying to emulate the winningest franchise in North American sports history is such a HORRIBLE thing.

                      Ahh, but the Yanks had their 90s run on the strength of a strong core that was homegrown along with some solid acquisitions of players that weren't superstars but good role guys.

                      The Mets are just spending money and making trades to get big names when they don't have any real solid core.
                      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                      • nyisles16
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 8317

                        #12
                        Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                        Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                        Ahh, but the Yanks had their 90s run on the strength of a strong core that was homegrown along with some solid acquisitions of players that weren't superstars but good role guys.

                        The Mets are just spending money and making trades to get big names when they don't have any real solid core.
                        the Yanks of those times had a few homegrowners, but most of the team was players brought in from outside the organization.. & especially those who played a big role with the team (Tino, O'Neil, Brosious).. second of all, they have not spent a DIME on this deal - as a matter of fact they are getting money from the marlins.. & i most certainly can consider a core of the team Wright, Reyes, & Beltran (even though Beltran was a FA signing)..

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #13
                          Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                          Um....Tino, O'Neil and Brosious were pretty much role players. They weren't high priced guys who think more about their stats then the team. So I think my point still stands. The Yanks were better at getting complimentary guys who can put up big numbers if need be but for the most part fit into the team concept.

                          I don't see that with the current Yankees and certainly not with the way Omar Minaya is building the Mets.
                          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                          • nyisles16
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 8317

                            #14
                            Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                            Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                            Um....Tino, O'Neil and Brosious were pretty much role players. They weren't high priced guys who think more about their stats then the team. So I think my point still stands. The Yanks were better at getting complimentary guys who can put up big numbers if need be but for the most part fit into the team concept.

                            I don't see that with the current Yankees and certainly not with the way Omar Minaya is building the Mets.

                            I see your point Sportsman, but i do have to disagree with the part that some of those guys were role players... O'Neill most certainly was not a role player with those teams.. he was the heart & soul of those clubs - the rest of the team fed off his play & drive..

                            but i do see what you are saying - the fact that they are "allstars" so to speak at each position & dont play as a team.. question is, would the same thing hold true if Manny came to NY?

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                            • knicks69
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 295

                              #15
                              Re: Oooohhhh The Mets

                              Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                              Um....Tino, O'Neil and Brosious were pretty much role players. They weren't high priced guys who think more about their stats then the team. So I think my point still stands. The Yanks were better at getting complimentary guys who can put up big numbers if need be but for the most part fit into the team concept.

                              I don't see that with the current Yankees and certainly not with the way Omar Minaya is building the Mets.
                              The Mets in fact do have a plan win now and build up the farm. Check out this months Baseball America, they have a whole article devoted to how much the Mets have done in Latin America in one year. Neither player they traded to florida will have any impact compared to Delgado. Also If I am Wagner I look at what the Phils did trading away Thome, who as a DH could be lethal for Rowland who is a good glove average hitter. If you think the Mets are done dealing they are not. They will have a catcher and may even get Soriano. I don't know how many people on this board know the Met's will have there own TV network just like YES. They have signed the Jets to appear on it as well. These networks generate mucho bucks. They will pay for the high price players. Will the Mets even win the NL East? Who knows!
                              however they are on the right track.

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