Willis and Cabrera trade thread...

[dkgojackets]

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If Selig has any respect for the sport he would shoot down any trade with those two, because there is absolutely no reason other than a fire sale. You cant claim to be going for youth, and the two dont make any money as it is. Under $800 K COMBINED last year I believe.

[dieselboy]

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If they trade either Willis or Cabrera....wow.

[cjonesfan921]

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Alright, Atlanta should jump on this and get Cabrera. That would make me and every Braves fan happy. Trade Marte and other prospects, IDC bring in Cabrera now.

[CWood2]

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I could deal with the loss of Cano, but we better not be getting rid of him and Wang just for Willis.

I could say lots of things about Yankee fans based on this trade assessment, but I've already gotten the entertainment I need.

[theaub]

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I could say lots of things about Yankee fans based on this trade assessment, but I've already gotten the entertainment I need.

I have a feeling that might be sig material...

[elicoleman]

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I could deal with the loss of Cano, but we better not be getting rid of him and Wang just for Willis.

I absolutely agree.

Of course people that don't watch the Yankees often don't understand why you wouldn't give up Wang and Cano, but those that see both of them on a pretty consistant basis do...

Wang can start or come out of the pen. Have people forgotten just how many starters this team has anyways?

Do you really want Womack at 2B instead of Cano? Hell no. Cano came up in very clutch moments last year and he's only going to get better.

And it's funny how people bitch and moan because the Yankees sign huge stars, but when they decline it, they're scoffed. It's a lose-lose situation.

[ehh]

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what the hell are you talking about. You have a chance to get a guy that young that was second in cy young voting for those two average players and would refuse it???

Because I think Wang is going to be a very, very good pitcher in the majors. Maybe not as good as Willis, but I can deal with that. I'm so ****ing sick of all these FA pitchers who come to the Bronx and absolutely blow goat dick. And there aren't tons of good second basemen around the majors, Cano could turn out to be a Top 5 second basemen. If they were old has-beens or never-were's then that's fine. But I wouldn't trade two players under 24 years old who both had impressive rookie seasons and if it wasn't for the two of them the team probably wouldn't have made the post season.

It takes a certain type of person to be able to perform in pinstripes, and knowing our luck lately if we aquired Willis we'd ruin his career.

[CWood2]

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I absolutely agree.

Of course people that don't watch the Yankees often don't understand why you wouldn't give up Wang and Cano, but those that see both of them on a pretty consistant basis do...

Wang can start or come out of the pen. Have people forgotten just how many starters this team has anyways?

Do you really want Womack at 2B instead of Cano? Hell no. Cano came up in very clutch moments last year and he's only going to get better.

And it's funny how people bitch and moan because the Yankees sign huge stars, but when they decline it, they're scoffed. It's a lose-lose situation.

Were you guys that upset a few years ago when you cut Tino loose after he too carried the Yanks before "upgrading" to Giambi?!? We're talking about Dontrelle freakin' Willis fellas!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of people in baseball would agree that Hanley (probably overrated, yes) and Anibal Sanchez have more upside and trade value than Cano and Wang, and Dontrelle is BETTER than Josh Beckett. See where I'm going with this...

[AI_Franchise]

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Were you guys that upset a few years ago when you cut Tino loose after he too carried the Yanks before "upgrading" to Giambi?!?

I think you're going to be suprised to hear the answer...but seeing as you being a BoSox fan, you should have a clue..at least a tiny bit.

[elicoleman]

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When you get burned after so many years by big name free agency players, especially pitchers, you tend to not want to go that rout.

Don't get me wrong, I would love Willis to be in pinstripes, but I do feel that Cano/Wang are too much. I also believe Cano for Pierre is too much.

Like ehh said, Cano could very well be a Top 5 second basemen.

[CWood2]

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Pierre for Cano isn't that hot, agreed. As far as Dontrelle, when you find a left-handed ace with a glowing personality and even better stuff who can probably pinch hit for your team because he's so athletic, I'd empty out my pockets. Plus, Pavano and Wright were huge gambles, both coming off of career years (one thanks to Leo Mazzone) which can now be categorized as bad investments. Dontrelle Willis in a big market in his early 20's, not a FA for another 4 years...I'd be drowning in my own drool, even with a bad history of signings (which we have too btw...Renteria, Clement)

[Stu]

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You guys kill me. I'm baffled that anybody would think twice about giving up a "potential top 5 2B" for a 23 year old LH Cy Young candidate. Guess what fellas...a top 5 2B still isn't that good.

Cano and Wang might be very good (I personally don't understand what the infatuation is) but Willis IS very good and has a lot of very good years left in him. When it comes to pitching you always take the sure thing especially considering Willis is 2 years younger than Wang.

Being burned in the past isn't a good reason to not go for more FA pitching. The Yankees stubborness in holding onto Cano and Wang is going to cost them some potentially good deals. It already cost them Josh Beckett, would they really be stupid enough to pass up Willis as well?

[rsox]

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You think they would take Hudson, McGowan and Rios for Cabrera?

Considering what they got in return for Beckett, Lowell, Mota, Delgado, Castillo and Lo Duca i'd have to say no because thats offering way too much. Now if they were offering a couple of A ball pitchers and a bucket of balls...then maybe you've got a deal .

[theaub]

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Considering what they got in return for Beckett, Lowell, Mota, Delgado, Castillo and Lo Duca i'd have to say no because thats offering way too much. Now if they were offering a couple of A ball pitchers and a bucket of balls...then maybe you've got a deal .

So David Purcey and David Bush? Welcome to Toronto Dontrelle and Miguel

[bigeastbumrush]

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I'd give up Derek Jeter for Dontrelle Willis. And I'm not even joking.