Re: Should Baseball have a replay system?

[ImTellinTim]

Re: SHOULD BASEBALL HAVE A REPLAY SYSTEM?......

The replay system should be expanded to include these categories

Home Run (already in use)
Fair or Foul
Catch or Trap
Safe or Out
Hit Batsman
Tag Plays

However, the caveat should be that the umpires use a mobile device or a "fifth umpire" in order to review these calls. I don't want them going into the dugout every time somebody wants to make a challenge. If the crew chief or the "fifth umpire" deem it necessary to review the play, then it should be viewed again.

Exactly how it should be. However, the on-field umpires egos (and the fact that the big old bull-headed Joe West is the president of the Umpires Association) will block any attempt to bring the decision on these things away from them. So while it could be a very swift decision, I'm afraid it will never be this way.

There is the argument that the players wouldn't know whether to carry on with a play or stop depending on the call. However, normally the players keep going on with the play as if it is a live ball. For example, in the instance that snepp posted above, Joe Mauer had to be called back to the plate from second base to continue his at bat and the outfielder acted as though it was fair the entire time. Mostly because it was fair by a large margin.

[Perfect Zero]

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I would think the Umpires Association would love to tell their members that they were able to add thirty new jobs with a television umpire. If they can't agree to that, I would let every ballpark in the nation replay every single play; I'm sure that would make the umpires look really bright.

As for the play, play it as if it was a live ball.

[umpire]

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Whoa there tough guy. The points made against replay in soccer are actually very similar to the arguments that baseball curmudgeons make. Maybe you should research that instead of dismissing it simply because you don't like the sport.

soccer and baseball are different i don't have a problem speaking on replay the problem is comparing them baseball has no goals and replay does not also worked.... either

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/umpire_9****p

the point is i making just cause there is something does not mean you going to get a perfect picture angle at all. the problem comes with umpires you know in the past how you see umpires get together? that was missing last year maybe some half some of the didn't. I don't support joe west in fact i wrote a letter telling them i was NOT PLEASE with joe west at all.

the other thing is that just cause you add another umpire means nothign the rule needs to be change and i be more than fine if that the case but it take a lot longer to finish a game up if we had all those safe/out hit by batter fair or foul etc...

"9.02
(a) Any umpire’s decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to, whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions.
Rule 9.02(a) Comment: Players leaving their position in the field or on base, or managers or coaches leaving the bench or coaches box, to argue on BALLS AND STRIKES will not be permitted. They should be warned if they start for the plate to protest the call. If they continue, they will be ejected from the game.
(b) If there is reasonable doubt that any umpire’s decision may be in conflict with the rules, the manager may appeal the decision and ask that a correct ruling be made. Such appeal shall be made only to the umpire who made the protested decision.
(c) If a decision is appealed, the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire’s decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it."

[Dog]

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Aside from the obnoxious title, yes the MLB should. But not balls/strikes and only scoring plays should be reviewed at first to see how it works. Then maybe expand from that

[Majingir]

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MLB(along with NBA,NHL) need challenges(like NFL has).

NHL coaches would be charged their only timeout
NBA coaches would be charged a full and a 20 timeout

Don't know what MLB coaches would be charged if they had it.


That way we wouldn't see constant replays, but if a coach thinks a player was out(or safe) at a bag and the umpire called it differently, they can challenge that play.

[umpire]

Re: SHOULD BASEBALL HAVE A REPLAY SYSTEM?......

MLB(along with NBA,NHL) need challenges(like NFL has).

NHL coaches would be charged their only timeout
NBA coaches would be charged a full and a 20 timeout

Don't know what MLB coaches would be charged if they had it.


That way we wouldn't see constant replays, but if a coach thinks a player was out(or safe) at a bag and the umpire called it differently, they can challenge that play.

problems with that already in my mind... there more than one play that may be close second is still up to the umpire to decide if he even wants to do that or talk to another umpire.

the rules have to be change first before anything else.

[Perfect Zero]

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I hate the NFL's challenge system. Why the hell do they need that red flag anyways? And why should the onus be on them to prove that the play was wrong? Any challenge should be approved by either the Crew Chief or the television umpire. The system we have with arguing calls works fine for any replay system.

[umpire]

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I hate the NFL's challenge system. Why the hell do they need that red flag anyways? And why should the onus be on them to prove that the play was wrong? Any challenge should be approved by either the Crew Chief or the television umpire. The system we have with arguing calls works fine for any replay system.

that can't be possible when the umpire making teh call can only make that decsion and second just cause we have replay does not make your going to get a perfect view or will be even 50% chance of anything.

We keep teh calls even if we know we got them wrong for obvious reason 1. opens way to many doors 2. as an umpire you know your going to miss plenty of calls 3. we do not make "calls up"

[Perfect Zero]

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that can't be possible when the umpire making teh call can only make that decsion and second just cause we have replay does not make your going to get a perfect view or will be even 50% chance of anything.

We keep teh calls even if we know we got them wrong for obvious reason 1. opens way to many doors 2. as an umpire you know your going to miss plenty of calls 3. we do not make "calls up"

You may not get a perfect view, but you will get a better view most of the time. You also have the advantage of slowing down time and looking over the call instead of having that split second to make the decision.

As a good umpire, you shouldn't miss "plenty of calls." Most umpires get the call right on the field most of the time anyways. What replay doesn't do is replace the umpire. Instead, it gives the umpire a tool to make the right decision at a better percentage. The "human element" should be the effect of the player's play on the field, and not in the hands of the arbitrator.

[umpire]

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You may not get a perfect view, but you will get a better view most of the time. You also have the advantage of slowing down time and looking over the call instead of having that split second to make the decision.

As a good umpire, you shouldn't miss "plenty of calls." Most umpires get the call right on the field most of the time anyways. What replay doesn't do is replace the umpire. Instead, it gives the umpire a tool to make the right decision at a better percentage. The "human element" should be the effect of the player's play on the field, and not in the hands of the arbitrator.

I don't think you got what i ment by being an umpire. you are going t miss plenty of calls as your a human and get get every call right or you got a player or you didn't get in postion. a good umpire would say he misses call you can't do that you are no in the wrong business.

that not a grauntee again... your assuming its going to help it does not help all the time.... again you guys keep forgetting one simple rule THE UMPIRE WHO MAKES THE CALL. CAN ONLY ASK HELP IF HE WANTS TO.

Its not up to the chew cheif or another umpire in the tv stand etc...
Its only up to the umpire who made the call. so the rules got to be change to use replay in a situationist

read this article

http://www.nwumpires.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=359:jim-evans-7-rules-of-umpiring&catid=14:amateur&Itemid=7

[Perfect Zero]

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Yeah, I'm assuming the rules would be changed, just as much as if replay was instituted.

[WTF]

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OP, hope you don't mind, changed to non-caps on the title.

[tvman]

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I'd love to see instant replays brought in..... every time a call goes against my team.

[umpire]

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OP, hope you don't mind, changed to non-caps on the title.

not sure if your going to get that this was made in 2002 i bought it up thought it was 2012 that was my bad...

oh well before they even think of adding replay they need to change the ruling

[snepp]

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http://deadspin.com/5907145/tim-welke-demonstrated-why-the-human-element-is-a-pathetic-joke