My all-90's team

[Stu]

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thats true...I guess when i think of Closers it just hard for me to ever think anyone was Better then Rivera or more hated by me also.

Im not really sure on closer of the 90's after thinking about it, Rivera closer of the 2nd half of 90's but before 95 i have no idea honestly

Wetteland's stats are really more impressive than I thought they would be. He averaged almost 37 saves/yr from 92-99 and had an ERA under 3.00 in all but the last year of that stretch. Hoffman was good from about 95 on and the Eck in the early 90's but Wetteland would be my pick for the whole decade.

[BunnyHardaway]

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I'd take out Larkin and put Cal at short.

[dacubys]

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what about Mike Piazza much better offensive #'s than ivan
and i hate him but what about mcguire at 1st although they may be tainted he had monster hr #'s
and wade boggs for third great average guy but little hr or rbi
or cal ripken



and i am sure we are overlooking alot of people

[Dice]

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Wetteland's stats are really more impressive than I thought they would be. He averaged almost 37 saves/yr from 92-99 and had an ERA under 3.00 in all but the last year of that stretch. Hoffman was good from about 95 on and the Eck in the early 90's but Wetteland would be my pick for the whole decade.

HOLY #$*%! I can't believe I got to agree with my favorite Red Sox fan!

I checked out the numbers and Wetteland did have a better career then Hoffman in the 90's. I'll change that.

I still can't believe a Red Sox fan actually corrected me?

[SPTO]

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what about Mike Piazza much better offensive #'s than ivan

Ivan still put up some good offensive numbers. He's also a better defensive catcher and calls a better game. I think that's what gave him the edge over Piazza.

[Dice]

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I'd take out Larkin and put Cal at short.

I could have but looking at both players there were certain thing Larkin did better than Ripken and vise-versa. Larkin was a better "hit for average" hitter. Ripken had better power. Ripken was a better fielder BUT Larkin had better range. Larkin had much better speed and Ripken was more durable.

And the debate could have raged on. BUT Larkin played more games at Shortstop than Ripken. Remember, Ripken moved to 3rd base in 97. Which to me gives Larkin the close edge. Now if this was the 80's I would have definately gave it to Ripken. Even over Ozzie Smith.

[Stu]

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I'd also take Larkin, simply because I think he was a better player. Ripken was a solid player but much of his fanfare comes from the longevity of his career, not necessarily the quality.

Dice, we agreed twice in one day. I feel sick

[Happy29]

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I would have picked Ryne Sandberg at second he is a better defensive second baseman and a better hitter both for average and power. And he's a class act he plays the game with respect unlike Alomar who has spit in the face of an umpire thats just my pick

[MassNole]

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My team

C - Mike Piazza
1B - Rafael Palmeiro
2B - Roberto Alomar
SS - Barry Larkin
3B - Matt Williams
OF - Barry Bonds
OF - Ken Griffey Jr.
OF - Tony Gwynn
DH - Mark McGwire

SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Roger Clemens
Closer - Dennis Eckersly (sp)

[Happy29]

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My team

C - Javy Lopez
1B - Fred McGriff
2B - Ryne Sandberg
SS - Ozzie Smith
3B - Matt Williams
OF - Kenny Lofton
OF - Ken Griffey Jr.
OF - Albert Belle
DH/1B - Mark Grace

SP - Greg Maddux
SP - John Smoltz
SP - Roger Clemens
SP - Orel Hershiser
SP - David Cone

[rsox]

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C Ivan Rodriguez
1B Jeff Bagwell
2B Roberto Alomar
SS Cal Ripken Jr.
3B Chipper Jones
OF Kenny Lofton
OF Ken Griffey Jr.
OF Joe Carter
DH Edgar Martinez

SP Greg Maddux
SP Pedro Martinez
SP Roger Clemens
SP Tom Glavine
SP David Cone

CP Trever Hoffman

[ehh]

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Why do so many baseball fans rely SO much on numbers and stats?

All I know........

During the 90's if I have one game to win I have Pedro Martinez starting and if I need one save I have Mo Rivera on the hill.

[Dice]

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Why do so many baseball fans rely SO much on numbers and stats?

All I know........

During the 90's if I have one game to win I have Pedro Martinez starting and if I need one save I have Mo Rivera on the hill.

And I wouldn't disagree with you on that. BUT ask yourself this during the periods of 90-96 would you have honestly taken Pedro Martinez over Greg Maddux? I'm pretty sure many people here who've watched baseball during that time say that Greg Maddux was the best pitcher in the game. Stats aside. No one confused hitter than Maddux during that period. Now from 96-99 I would have taken Perdo BUT do the math. Maddux dominance wa a six year period and Perdo was at four.

Same case can be made for Rivera and Wettland. I would have definately taken Rivera between 97-99 BUT Wettland was the best closer of the decade. AND remember, who did Rivera setup games for when he moved to the bullpen? Wettland!

[Kelverin]

Re: My all-90's team

C - Mike Piazza
1B - Fred McGriff
2B - Ryne Sandberg
SS - Barry Larkin
3B - Matt Williams
OF - Rickey Henderson
OF - Ken Griffey Jr.
OF - Tony Gwynn
DH - Edgar Martinez

SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Roger Clemens
SP - Greg Maddux
SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Kevin Brown

Closer - Trevor Hoffman