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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #1

    Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

    AL Manager of the Year:
    Jim Leyland, Detriot Tigers. With virutally the same team from last year he's turned this ballclub into contenders. Remember last year they were hanging around for a while then they faded. I seriously doubt that's going to happen this year.

    NL Manager of the Year:
    Bob Melvin, Arizona Diamondbacks. With a makeshift lineup and no one on their pitching staff outside of Brandon Webb worth talking about they sit on top of first place in a division where everyone is above .500. Majority of it goes to Melvin for this surprise.

    AL Rookie of the Year:
    Justin Verlander, Detriot Tigers. With the resurgence of the Tigers not only Leyland plays a big part but the emergence of the pitching staff. And with the staff Verlander has been the steady anchor as the fifth starter of the Tigers rotation.

    NL Rookie of the Year:
    Hanley Ramirez, Florida Marlins. Not only one of the best young shortstops in the game today but one of the best young leadoff hitters in the game. If Boston knew that this kid was going to be this good they still would have made the Beckett deal BUT they probably would have asked for more in return.

    AL Cy Young:
    Jose Contreas, Chicago White Sox. This was close. There are at least about 6 different picthers that you can give the award to and not complain. The only reason why I give it to Contreas because every start this year he's had solid to dominate outings. He's pitched at least 6+ innings and hasn't given up more that 2 earned runs in each start.

    NL Cy Young:
    Brandon Webb, Ariozona Diamondbacks. Finally showing the potential that the D-Backs expected from this kid. Where would the D-Back be without this guy?

    AL MVP:
    Jim Thome, Chicago White Sox. BOY! I know I'll be called homer for this but this race is a close one. There has to be at least 4-5 guys you can give the MVP to and not complain about it. BUT the reason why I give Thome the MVP is because his presence in the White Sox line makes them even better than their World Series team of last year. Last year the White Sox didn't have a guy you'd worry about taking you outta the park. With Thome in the lineup he gives the Sox that presence. And with his presence other batters in the line up have stepped up. Before this season is all said and done I feel Konerko is going to get some MVP considerations because of Thome in the lineup.

    NL MVP:
    Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals. On the Sunday Night Conversation on SportCenter Pujols claims he's not a power hitter but a line drive hitter with power. WHATEVER! He can call himself what he wants but most mangers call him 'Dangerous'. I call him 'Gangsta'. He's the one guy in the lineup that scares the sh!t outta you. At the rate he's going he's on track to get like 200 RBI's and hit 70+ HR. Of course it's not going to happen because managers are going to walk him even more. But if Jim Edmonds and Scott Rolen elevate their games then those marks are defintely be in reach. He has more of a chance to win the triple crown than break the homerun record or the RBI record.

    What are your opinions?
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X
  • glucklich
    Banned
    • Jun 2004
    • 4272

    #2
    Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

    Originally posted by Dice
    AL Manager of the Year:
    Jim Leyland, Detriot Tigers. With virutally the same team from last year he's turned this ballclub into contenders. Remember last year they were hanging around for a while then they faded. I seriously doubt that's going to happen this year.

    NL Manager of the Year:
    Bob Melvin, Arizona Diamondbacks. With a makeshift lineup and no one on their pitching staff outside of Brandon Webb worth talking about they sit on top of first place in a division where everyone is above .500. Majority of it goes to Melvin for this surprise.

    AL Rookie of the Year:
    Justin Verlander, Detriot Tigers. With the resurgence of the Tigers not only Leyland plays a big part but the emergence of the pitching staff. And with the staff Verlander has been the steady anchor as the fifth starter of the Tigers rotation.

    NL Rookie of the Year:
    Hanley Ramirez, Florida Marlins. Not only one of the best young shortstops in the game today but one of the best young leadoff hitters in the game. If Boston knew that this kid was going to be this good they still would have made the Beckett deal BUT they probably would have asked for more in return.

    AL Cy Young:
    Jose Contreas, Chicago White Sox. This was close. There are at least about 6 different picthers that you can give the award to and not complain. The only reason why I give it to Contreas because every start this year he's had solid to dominate outings. He's pitched at least 6+ innings and hasn't given up more that 2 earned runs in each start.

    NL Cy Young:
    Brandon Webb, Ariozona Diamondbacks. Finally showing the potential that the D-Backs expected from this kid. Where would the D-Back be without this guy?

    AL MVP:
    Jim Thome, Chicago White Sox. BOY! I know I'll be called homer for this but this race is a close one. There has to be at least 4-5 guys you can give the MVP to and not complain about it. BUT the reason why I give Thome the MVP is because his presence in the White Sox line makes them even better than their World Series team of last year. Last year the White Sox didn't have a guy you'd worry about taking you outta the park. With Thome in the lineup he gives the Sox that presence. And with his presence other batters in the line up have stepped up. Before this season is all said and done I feel Konerko is going to get some MVP considerations because of Thome in the lineup.

    NL MVP:
    Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals. On the Sunday Night Conversation on SportCenter Pujols claims he's not a power hitter but a line drive hitter with power. WHATEVER! He can call himself what he wants but most mangers call him 'Dangerous'. I call him 'Gangsta'. He's the one guy in the lineup that scares the sh!t outta you. At the rate he's going he's on track to get like 200 RBI's and hit 70+ HR. Of course it's not going to happen because managers are going to walk him even more. But if Jim Edmonds and Scott Rolen elevate their games then those marks are defintely be in reach. He has more of a chance to win the triple crown than break the homerun record or the RBI record.

    What are your opinions?
    And yet if D. Lee goes down, the entire front office for the Cubs not only makes excuses for Dusty but is on the verge of giving him an extension in spite of the fact that they have more "talent" than Arizona.

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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #3
      Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

      AL Rookie - Jonathan Papelbon. Verlander has been solid but Papelbon has been nothing short of outstanding. He leads the majors in saves and has only allowed 1 R in 22 innings.

      NL Rookie - Hanley Ramirez. Leads the NL in BA, Nuf said.

      AL Cy Young - Kenny Rogers. Contreras has been great but he also missed a couple starts. Kenny has been awesome for the Tigers so far. Scott Kazmir also deserves mention here even though the D-Rays aren't in playoff contention.

      NL Cy Young - Bronson Arroyo. Leads the NL in ERA and has 6 wins on a pitching staff that desperately needed help.

      AL MVP - Thome. Top 5 in OBP, SLG, OPS, HR, RBI, R and BB

      NL MVP - Pujols. Not even a question.
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      • dkgojackets
        Banned
        • Mar 2005
        • 13816

        #4
        Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

        I like most of your picks, might think of Papelbon for AL RotY though. I would probably give AL Cy Young to Kazmir instead due to having over a third of his teams total wins and the significant number of strikeouts compared to Contreras, but either is a good pick.

        I really dont like giving out the MVP award to a DH, so my vote would go out to someone like Magglio Ordonez, whose hitting over 30 points higher than Thome and has pretty respectable power numbers, leading his team to the surprising division lead. I could see Thome or a number of other guys though.

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        • Stu
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 7924

          #5
          Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

          Had to laugh at you saying the White Sox didn't have a guy you worry about hitting HR's last year though. Konerko maybe?? Not to mention, they hit the 5th most HR's in baseball.
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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #6
            Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

            AL MVP Jim Thome
            NL MVP Albert Pujols
            AL Cy Young Mike Mussina
            NL Cy Young Bronson Arroyo
            AL ROY Jonathan Papelbon
            NL ROY Hanley Ramirez
            AL Manager of the year Jim Leyland
            NL Manager of the year Jerry Narron
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            • glucklich
              Banned
              • Jun 2004
              • 4272

              #7
              Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

              Originally posted by dkgojackets
              I like most of your picks, might think of Papelbon for AL RotY though. I would probably give AL Cy Young to Kazmir instead due to having over a third of his teams total wins and the significant number of strikeouts compared to Contreras, but either is a good pick.

              I really dont like giving out the MVP award to a DH, so my vote would go out to someone like Magglio Ordonez, whose hitting over 30 points higher than Thome and has pretty respectable power numbers, leading his team to the surprising division lead. I could see Thome or a number of other guys though.
              Translation: Im a Yankee fan who lobbied hard for ARod last year and now, rather than admit I was wrong, I have to perpetuate this phony-baloney idea that Ortiz didnt get it on principle.

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              • dkgojackets
                Banned
                • Mar 2005
                • 13816

                #8
                Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                Originally posted by glucklich
                Translation: Im a Yankee fan who lobbied hard for ARod last year and now, rather than admit I was wrong, I have to perpetuate this phony-baloney idea that Ortiz didnt get it on principle.
                What Yankee fan starts and makes over half of the posts in the Florida Marlins thread? LOL. That would have taken you 10 seconds to find out, yet you had to go out spewing more ignorance.
                Last edited by dkgojackets; 05-23-2006, 01:49 PM.

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                • dieselboy
                  --------------
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 18040

                  #9
                  Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                  AL MVP: Jim Thome
                  NL MVP: Albert Pujols
                  AL Cy Young: Scott Kazmir
                  NL Cy Young: Bronson Arroyo
                  AL ROY: Jonathan Papelbon
                  NL ROY: Hanley Ramirez (even though his defense has been awful)
                  AL Manager of the year: Jim Leyland
                  NL Manager of the year: Jerry Narron

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                    AL ROTY: Verlander

                    NL ROTY: Ramirez

                    AL CY YOUNG: Kenny Rogers (ugh!)

                    NL CY YOUNG: Bronson Arroyo (you know the NL doesn't have the best talent when he's being talked about in these terms)

                    AL MVP: Thome

                    NL MVP: Pujols

                    AL MOY: Leyland

                    NL MOY: Narron
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                    • Dice
                      Sitting by the door
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6627

                      #11
                      Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                      Originally posted by camulos
                      Had to laugh at you saying the White Sox didn't have a guy you worry about hitting HR's last year though. Konerko maybe?? Not to mention, they hit the 5th most HR's in baseball.
                      Ok. My better judgement of words didn't convey correctly. My Chicago Public School Education is showing again. Probably what I meant to say is they had no one in the line up last year that opposing pitchers feared. Yeah, there was Konerko BUT I'm willing to bet you if you'd a ask a slew of major league baseball pitchers majority of them would rather face Konerko than Thome. Neither one is desirable to pitch against BUT if I was a pitcher I'd take my chances against Konerko.
                      I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                      • Dice
                        Sitting by the door
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6627

                        #12
                        Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                        Originally posted by camulos
                        AL Rookie - Jonathan Papelbon. Verlander has been solid but Papelbon has been nothing short of outstanding. He leads the majors in saves and has only allowed 1 R in 22 innings.
                        I can understand Papelbon being the ROY. He's having a hell of a season. Maybe it's just me but I always think that closers is the most overrated position in the game. Not saying that you don't need them but I feel that you can still win the World Series with a decent closer. Your closer doesn't have to be the best in the league nor even top 5. Just decent enough. The White Sox won the World Series with a rookie closer who was called up in July. The Marlins won in 2003 with Brandon Looper. The Diamondbacks won it in 2001 with Byung-Hyun Kim and he blew some games in the playoffs and W.S.

                        And I'm a firm believer that closers should never win the MVP. How can a guy who pitches less than 100 innings help a team throughout the course of a season. Now playoffs might be understandable because there is less margin for error but for the regular 162-game season...I'm against it.

                        Besides, it's harder to find a solid starting pitcher than closer. You won't get an arugument from me against Papelbon winning rookie of the year BUT I'd still take Verlander.
                        I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                        • Stu
                          All Star
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 7924

                          #13
                          Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                          Normally I would agree with you, but I would argue that Papelbon is more valuable to the Red Sox as closer than Verlander is to the Tigers as a 5th starter, especially when the Sox don't have anyone else who could do the job he's done.

                          It also helps that I'm a Red Sox fan and get to watch Paps every night and see just how dominating he is.

                          Plus nothing beats being able to go to a game in Philly, like on Friday, and scream out "You've been Paps-Smeared" after he closes out the game.
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                          • dkgojackets
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 13816

                            #14
                            Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                            Originally posted by Dice
                            The Marlins won in 2003 with Brandon Looper.
                            It was Ugueth Urbina, actually.

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                            • dieselboy
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 18040

                              #15
                              Re: Since 1/4 of the season is done time to dish out some early awards.

                              Originally posted by dkgojackets
                              It was Ugueth Urbina, actually.
                              In the postseason, ya.

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