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  • ILLCHILL
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 2820

    #1

    So it begins?

    David Segui has recently admitted to using HGH, and his name was part of the group Grimsley spilled. Do you guys think this is the first of many to come clean before the list goes public?
  • JoseValentinWooo
    Rookie
    • Dec 2004
    • 279

    #2
    Re: So it begins?

    I think anyone who already retired should confess, but the players who are still active are just going to hope that their names are not on the list.

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    • Vince
      Bow for Bau
      • Aug 2002
      • 26017

      #3
      Re: So it begins?

      This is not shocking. Segui was jacked. I always suspected him. Jeff Conine wouldn't surprise me either.
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      • BunnyHardaway
        Banned
        • Nov 2004
        • 15195

        #4
        Re: So it begins?

        Originally posted by Vince
        This is not shocking. Segui was jacked. I always suspected him. Jeff Conine wouldn't surprise me either.

        I hope Conine did it just so we can get him off of the damn team.

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        • ExtremeGamer
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          • Jul 2002
          • 35299

          #5
          Re: So it begins?

          Originally posted by Vince
          This is not shocking. Segui was jacked. I always suspected him. Jeff Conine wouldn't surprise me either.
          Segui was using it legally, he has a prescription for it.

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          • eXperiment63
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 3077

            #6
            Re: So it begins?

            Legally... but he didn't have a medical exemption from MLB to be using it while playing in the MLB.

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            • rubisco43
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 4372

              #7
              Re: So it begins?

              Originally posted by JJLinn
              I hope Conine did it just so we can get him off of the damn team.
              Conine seems like a stand up kind of guy. Would be disappointed if it were him. But i'd get over it pretty quickly.
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              • mjb2124
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13649

                #8
                Re: So it begins?

                Originally posted by eXperiment63
                Legally... but he didn't have a medical exemption from MLB to be using it while playing in the MLB.
                Didn't need one as it wasn't illegal in MLB. Although Segui played 18 games in 2004 which is when the policy took effect.

                What I want to know is how MLB could not allow someone to use HGH who has a prescription for it? It's just like using contacts for bad eyesight. Segui used HGH because his body was incapable of producing the testosterone that it needed.


                As to the original question, no this will not be the start of guy's coming clean. Only one's I can see saying anything are player's that are retired and don't want their name to be dragged through the mud.
                Last edited by mjb2124; 06-18-2006, 11:18 AM.

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                • Lintyfresh85
                  Where have I been?
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 17492

                  #9
                  Re: So it begins?

                  yeah retired players only.... one's that are still playing will have their career's destroyed by saying they did HGH... not going to happen.
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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: So it begins?

                    No, only retired guys might confess but current ballplayers have probably shredded the paper trail and sweating bullets hoping their names don't come out in the media.
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                    • dce1228
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1016

                      #11
                      Re: So it begins?

                      I don't know about you guys, but Segui has lost my HOF vote.

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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52919

                        #12
                        Re: So it begins?

                        Well then, if he had a prescription for it, and medically needed it, I say this is absolutely no big deal at all (in Segui's case, after all).

                        BTW, when he used to play for the Mariners, my bro was able to get into the Mariners dugout during one of their games against SF, and he ended up getting an autographed ball by Segui and Alex Rodriguez (my bro's friend was David Segui's cousin).

                        I thought that was pretty cool, but now the signatures are a bit faded.

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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #13
                          Re: So it begins?

                          Originally posted by joeboo
                          Didn't need one as it wasn't illegal in MLB. Although Segui played 18 games in 2004 which is when the policy took effect.

                          What I want to know is how MLB could not allow someone to use HGH who has a prescription for it? It's just like using contacts for bad eyesight. Segui used HGH because his body was incapable of producing the testosterone that it needed.


                          As to the original question, no this will not be the start of guy's coming clean. Only one's I can see saying anything are player's that are retired and don't want their name to be dragged through the mud.
                          The truth is there are a lot of players that have taken something! So when this does all come out. I wont be surprise about any player being dirty!

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                          • mjb2124
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13649

                            #14
                            Re: So it begins?

                            Originally posted by Scottd
                            The truth is there are a lot of players that have taken something! So when this does all come out. I wont be surprise about any player being dirty!
                            Of course. I've been saying from day 1 that more players are on something than many people want to admit.

                            If you include amphetamines into that category, might as well say it's at least 70% of all big leaguers.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #15
                              Re: So it begins?

                              Originally posted by joeboo
                              Of course. I've been saying from day 1 that more players are on something than many people want to admit.

                              If you include amphetamines into that category, might as well say it's at least 70% of all big leaguers.
                              I know I have been saying the same thing! I just think if they want to clean this up. There is going to be a lot of players going down.

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