So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

[CMH]

Re: So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

I've seen the Red Sox in worse times.

6.5 is hardly anything for the Yankees and their fans to be excited about. I won't be comfortable until the Yankees clinch (assuming they do).

As for the wild card lead. I mean, yea the Red Sox haven't played great ball lately, but the White Sox and Twins had their stretches too. If you live in Minnesota or Chicago I wouldn't be comfortable with a 4.5 lead over the Red Sox.

[ILLCHILL]

Re: So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

Wait, why the hell are my Sox being flamed? They suck royally right now, its absolutely unnacceptable. But when did they make guarentees about winning titles this year? Who have they offended by sucking? We can say they aren't playing up to expectations, but you can sure as hell see why, and they haven't done anything 'flame-worthy' aside from suck.

[Thrasha]

Re: So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

An embarrasing outing against the Royals, an embarassing outing against the Yankees (in 5 [FIVE] games, mind you), way out of the AL East contention and are slipping out of Wild Card contention.... Can we the people, and they the media, start flaming the holy hell out of the Boston Red Sox now, please?

Now, I must say, I'm not the biggest friend of the Yankees and their fans (in fact I despise them) either, but nothing this year has put a bigger smile on my face than watching the Yankees absolutely trounce the Red Sox in Fenway. I think this is the one instance until the playoffs where I can actually celebrate along side Yankee fans.

Why is my dislike against the Red Sox fueled so heavily? Because of the media's (aka ESPN's) constant coverage and praising of them, and their extreme, almost scary, love of your "Big Papi" David Ortiz. Why can't I stand David Ortiz? That's a COMPLETELY different argument, and subject, and would probably fuel an outrageous argument from all the passive and naive baseball fans on this forum..... But make a guess anyways....

I understand that I will get absolutely flamed or even get this thread locked (which would be a perfect representation of bias, since that "To the Mets haters" post didn't get locked) because of the overwhelming amount of Red Sox fans here, but before I do, please take the time to go to MLB.com, click on "Standings", and check out where you fellas are placed.

Oh, and to add on some productivity to the constructiveness of this post: Who thinks Red Sox still have a chance?

Wannnnnnnnnnhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

[Misfit]

Re: So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

All I have to say is that anyone who doubts Derek Jeter's intangibles and "little things" that he brings to the Yankees needs to take a look at how bad the Red Sox have collapsed without their captain. It's no coincidence.

Varitek is to Boston what Jeter is to the Yanks. Ortiz and Manny can be as clutch as hell and put up all the power numbers in the world, but the team is lost without Varitek. Obviously the other injuries hurt too, but Varitek was the key blow.

Beckett sucked with Varitek behind the plate, and he sucks without him. It's just been magnified because he's been playing good teams lately. Just look at his season, every good start he's had minus one against Toronto in the second week of the season and his first start have been against bad ballclubs. Any team with a good offense has killed him, and even some of the bad offenses have put a hurt on him (Oakland).

I'm not convinced the Yankees would collapse without Jeter. Jeter missed a lot of time a few years ago and they won the division, he played like crap for a lot of 04 and they won the division. If the Yankees have taught us one thing over the years it is that anyone in that lineup can be replaced because there are no easy outs. And when they have an easy out they make a trade to erase it. This sudden Jeter for MVP talk is bogus to me. I wouldn't even say Jeter is the MVP of that team. As a Red Sox fan, I watch a lot of ballgames each year between the two teams and a lot of Yankees games on National television and when Jeter is up to bat in a big spot he really doesn't scare me. Sometimes he comes through, more often than not, he doesn't (which technically is true of pretty much everyone). The guy I hate seeing at the plate in a big spot on that team is Jason Giambi. As much as I despise his roid lovin' ways, when he is on he is almost impossible to pitch to. He doesn't chase a lot of balls and can hit a homerun on any pitch. Jeter can be pitched to, there's a set pattern a pitcher can follow against him and if they execute 9 times out of 10 they'll get him. With Giambi it sometimes feels like a roll of the dice.

[4BiddenKnight]

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Man, I'm starting to lean towards the Yankees more now than I've ever had in my life. I used to hate the Yankees a lot, but then it slowly softened up as they started losing and as the original group of Yanks slowly started to be weeded out by retirement, signing a star player over their better Yankee player.

I used to like David Ortiz, but even up here in Canada, Sportsnet and The Score (the 2 sports networks I have) both kiss David Ortiz's *** so dam much it's getting sickening.

[DrJones]

Re: So can we stop praising and start flaming the Red Sox now?

Like most neutral fans, I was glad when the Red Sox won the World Series, sticking it to the Yankees in the process. But after the epic ALCS of '03 and '04, it's all been played out IMO. I can't stand either team and would like a 10-year break from each. Here's hoping for a Tigers/Twins ALCS this year.