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  • jonpt
    MVP
    • Dec 2002
    • 1289

    #31
    Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

    Originally posted by cjonesfan921
    Yes they will be champion, but imo aren't the best team. Ofcourse that doesn't matter because they win the WS.
    Well, you have a right to your opinon. But imo whoever wins the seires if it's Detroit or St. louis is the best team at the end of the year. It always about how you finish in the race to the end. And IF st. louis wins they finished the race in 1st.
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    • Matteh
      MVP
      • Jun 2004
      • 1554

      #32
      Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

      I don't think one 7 game series can prove one league is better than the other. I think most people would agree that taking in to account all teams, the AL is better as a whole. I think if every team in the AL plays every team in the NL in 7 games series, the AL will come out on top the majority of the time. It's my opinion, but I still think the AL is the better league no matter who wins the series.
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      • Head Coach
        Banned
        • May 2005
        • 601

        #33
        Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

        The whole point is this. Before the series people looked at the Cards and the NL like a complete joke. But now look,people see the NL is far more formidable than people thought it was.

        IMHO regular season records are meaningless if it is not carried over into the playoffs. The Seattle team of 2001 that won 116 games but lost in the ALCS is a perfect example because noone even remembers them now.

        The fact that the AL dominated interleague play is meaningless if it is not carried over into the series. Plus if the Tigers dont comeback from being 3-1 no one will ever remember it anyways.

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        • mjb2124
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13649

          #34
          Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

          Originally posted by Head Coach
          IMHO regular season records are meaningless if it is not carried over into the playoffs.
          Depends on the person I guess. IMO an average team that backpeddles into the playoffs can catch a hot streak and win the entire thing whereas a dominant team through a 162 game season can catch a cold streak and get knocked out in round 1 of the playoffs. Who's the better overall team? IMO it's the team that dominated during the 162 game season. Then again, I typically go with the larger sample size because there is less room for error.

          Just because a team is hot at the right time doesn't always mean it's the best team. That's just the way I see it.

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          • jonpt
            MVP
            • Dec 2002
            • 1289

            #35
            Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

            Originally posted by mjb2124
            Depends on the person I guess. IMO an average team that backpeddles into the playoffs can catch a hot streak and win the entire thing whereas a dominant team through a 162 game season can catch a cold streak and get knocked out in round 1 of the playoffs. Who's the better overall team? IMO it's the team that dominated during the 162 game season. Then again, I typically go with the larger sample size because there is less room for error.

            Just because a team is hot at the right time doesn't always mean it's the best team. That's just the way I see it.
            So I guess you would agree that the Colts were the best team in football last year. In fact several teams were better than the Steelers. IMO I say the Steelers because they were the best when it counted.
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            • Rainey
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 4507

              #36
              Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

              There is no reward for "the best team", but there is a reward for the "champion".

              Even though the AL dominated the NL in Interleague play for THIS season it doesn't really mean all that much now. The previous championships the AL has won in the previous years mean much more than that. However, this year it appears the NL will win the championship.
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              • dkgojackets
                Banned
                • Mar 2005
                • 13816

                #37
                Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                BGarrett has pretty much already said everything that I was going to add.

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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #38
                  Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                  Originally posted by jonpt
                  So I guess you would agree that the Colts were the best team in football last year. In fact several teams were better than the Steelers. IMO I say the Steelers because they were the best when it counted.
                  Yes I do think the Colts were the better overall team. The Steelers got hot at the right time and won it when it mattered. During the season the Colts were the better team and so were the Bengals and a few other's.

                  I'm looking at this realistically. Sample size is the key as the larger the sample, the smaller the margin of error. I'm not discrediting the Cards if they win, I just think there were better overall teams throughout the year.
                  Last edited by mjb2124; 10-27-2006, 02:35 PM.

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                  • cjonesfan921
                    UGH, next year
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 20081

                    #39
                    Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                    Originally posted by mjb2124
                    Yes I do think the Colts were the better overall team. The Steelers got hot at the right time and won it when it mattered. During the season the Colts were the better team and so were the Bengals and a few other's.

                    I'm looking at this realistically. Sample size is the key as the larger the sample, the smaller the margin of error. I'm not discrediting the Cards if they win, I just think there were better overall teams throughout the year.
                    Completely agree. The best team will not always, and most of the time doesn't win the championship. That's just the way it goes.

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                    • jonpt
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 1289

                      #40
                      Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                      [QUOTE=mjb2124;2725513]Yes I do think the Colts were the better overall team. The Steelers got hot at the right time and won it when it mattered. During the season the Colts were the better team and so were the Bengals and a few other's.

                      I'm looking at this realistically. Sample size is the key as the larger the sample, the smaller the margin of error. I'm not discrediting the Cards if they win, I just think there were better overall teams throughout the year.[/QUOTE

                      yeah, I agree that there were better overall teams throughout the year. I'm just saying whoever wins the WS should be considered the best team at the end of the year. Just like the Steelers proved to be last year.
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                      • ZB9
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 18387

                        #41
                        Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                        Originally posted by Head Coach
                        Which means more? Interleague play or the World Series?
                        when it comes to determining which league is overall better?....interleague play means more in determining that imo. It's a much larger sample to draw from. imo you cant determine a league is better because a team from that league won the championship.

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                        • Chip Douglass
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 12256

                          #42
                          Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                          Originally posted by mjb2124
                          IMO an average team that backpeddles into the playoffs can catch a hot streak and win the entire thing whereas a dominant team through a 162 game season can catch a cold streak and get knocked out in round 1 of the playoffs. Who's the better overall team? IMO it's the team that dominated during the 162 game season. Then again, I typically go with the larger sample size because there is less room for error.

                          Just because a team is hot at the right time doesn't always mean it's the best team. That's just the way I see it.
                          I've always disagreed with this thinking.

                          If a team is so dominate during the regular season, why can't they duplicate that performance in the playoffs, considering no traumtic changes (injuries, etc.). The playoffs bring added pressure and better competition, who are as equally as talented or MORE talented than the teams they play against. And contrary to the regular season, there are no added benefits of a weak schedule and there is NO room for error considering the small sample sizes. Simply put it, the playoffs raise the standards and if you do not bring your A game, your undeserving. The best teams may not always fit these requirements.

                          The playoffs in any case should validate a team's regular season. Let's use 2006 UConn for an example. They were ranked highly throughout the college b-ball regular season, but they lost to George Mason in the regional finals. Does this exactly mean George Mason is the better team overall? No, but on that one day, where any useless regular season stat that showed UConn's clear advantage was disregarded, on that one given day, George Mason won and was clearly the better team.

                          The playoffs are a crapshoot, and while the best team might not always win, they are VERY DESERVING to win.
                          Last edited by Chip Douglass; 10-27-2006, 08:52 PM.
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                          • Sandman42
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 15186

                            #43
                            Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                            Originally posted by mjb2124
                            Depends on the person I guess. IMO an average team that backpeddles into the playoffs can catch a hot streak and win the entire thing whereas a dominant team through a 162 game season can catch a cold streak and get knocked out in round 1 of the playoffs. Who's the better overall team? IMO it's the team that dominated during the 162 game season. Then again, I typically go with the larger sample size because there is less room for error.

                            Just because a team is hot at the right time doesn't always mean it's the best team. That's just the way I see it.
                            Another example of it this postseason. The Cards and Tigers both backpedalled into the playoffs and now they are in the World Series. Meanwhile, teams like the Yankees and Twins, who were dominant in the 2nd half of the season lose in the ALDS.
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                            • joeysosa
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1051

                              #44
                              Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                              This is a juvenile argument. No one cares who wins the damn World Series, let alone Interleague play.

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                              • BGarrett7
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 5890

                                #45
                                Re: I hate to root for the Cardinals but......

                                Originally posted by joeysosa
                                No one cares who wins the damn World Series, let alone Interleague play.
                                I think you've got a legion of baseball fans who are quite concerned with who wins the World Series. Interleague play on the other hand...

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