Jeter Doesn't Deserve MVP...

[elicoleman]

Cause he lacks leadership?! This may be the dumbest article ever.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/phil_taylor/11/01/arod.jeter/index.html

Now that baseball's postseason is over, the individual awards will soon be handed out, including the American League MVP. Boston's David Ortiz and a trio of Twins, Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau and Johan Santana, are all viable candidates for the hardware, and there will be no complaints from this corner if any of them win. The only injustice would be if the award goes to the player who may just be the favorite: Derek Jeter.

There's no question that Jeter had a fabulous year, finishing second in the AL batting race and helping the Yanks to the best regular-season record in the league. But Jeter, the Yankees captain, was also derelict in his duty this season. The supposed team leader led everyone in pinstripes except the teammate who needed him most -- third baseman Alex Rodriguez.

[AI_Franchise]

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Whether he wins it or not, Jeter could have done more with A-Rod in time of need.
I definetely agree on that part, but that has nothing to do with his stats or the team's tie with NYM for the league best record.

[skitch]

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It's not like Jeter could hit or field for A-Rod... there's only so much he could do with him, the rest was up to Rodriguez. Saying Jeter lacks leadership is a joke, and this is coming from a guy that hates him.

[The C]

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He did kind of leave A-Rod out to dry.

I can't remember if Jeter had Giambi's back when Jason's testimony was leaked, but I believe he did. Yet he can't stand up for A-Rod; he couldn't even tell the media that A-Rod is one, if not the best offensive 3rd basemen in the league. Hell, he couldn't even say that Alex would turn it around.

But that doesn't take away his statistical season though, but I can see the author's point.

[AI_Franchise]

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It's not like Jeter could hit or field for A-Rod... there's only so much he could do with him, the rest was up to Rodriguez. Saying Jeter lacks leadership is a joke, and this is coming from a guy that hates him.

The only thing that we're talking about here is OFF the field help, not ON the field. Obviously he can't pamper his stats.... Gary Sheffield stood up for Arod more than Jeter, and that is saying a lot. Not for nothing you always know where you stand with Sheff, that's commendable.

[elicoleman]

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Thing is, Jeter isn't up for Babysitter of the Year Award.

Sure, it would've been nice for Jeter to reach out to Arod, but that has nothing to do with the MVP award in the slightest bit. However the author seems to think so, which is why I think the article is completely ridiculous.

Whether Jeter wins it or not really isn't the issue so much as the reason why he wouldn't.

[ehh]

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Dumb article, Jeter isn't a shrink and clearly A-Rod need(ed) more than a pat on the back and a "you'll be okay, just stick with it." or whatever Jeter was going to give him.

Plus none of the other four candidates were in an even remotely close situation to Jeter's. Who knows what those guys would have done.

[teebone]

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It cuts both ways. Jeter has been getting credit for intangible type things for years.

[teebone]

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Dumb article, Jeter isn't a shrink and clearly A-Rod need(ed) more than a pat on the back and a "you'll be okay, just stick with it." or whatever Jeter was going to give him.

Plus none of the other four candidates were in an even remotely close situation to Jeter's. Who knows what those guys would have done.

Thats not true. Ortiz has stuck up for Manny numerous times.

[soltrain]

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Doesn't the idea of having 3 Twins up for it kind of null and void the fact that one of them should win it?

[ehh]

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Thats not true. Ortiz has stuck up for Manny numerous times.

Are you seriously trying to compare Manny's "problems" with what A-Rod went through in '06?

[teebone]

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Are you seriously trying to compare Manny's "problems" with what A-Rod went through in '06?

No, Im comparing how Ortiz and Jeter react to turmoil whether its Mannys problems or ARods.

[The C]

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Are you seriously trying to compare Manny's "problems" with what A-Rod went through in '06?

I think the problem isn't what matters, it's how they each handled it.

Ortiz basically came out and said, in public, hey lay off Manny. However little that did, it was still something. We didn't get that from Jeter.

[ehh]

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I think the problem isn't what matters, it's how they each handled it.

Ortiz basically came out and said, in public, hey lay off Manny. However little that did, it was still something. We didn't get that from Jeter.

Right, and as I said in my earlier post that if Jeter said that about A-Rod it wouldn't have done anything to help him. The problems are different, A-Rod was/is beyond a pat on the back.

Manny does the same crap year in and year out and he brings it upon himself by acting like an idiot. A-Rod didn't do anything do anything to draw attention to himself, he just put up "below average A-Rod numbers" and struggled in the clutch and the playoffs.

[AI_Franchise]

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What are you kiddin me? If Jeter came out to support Arod, it would have made a big difference. It would have shown accepatance to the Yankees, from Mr.Yankee himself. Stats wouldn't have made a difference. I personally accepted Arod entrance on Feb. 14th and well pleased about it, even though it cost us Soriano. Sori one of my faves to this day, but I'll take "arod's below average #'s" last year and still be glad that it's better statistically than half the league.