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  • Stoud
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1259

    #1

    Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

    Jose Guillen signed to 1 year deal worth $5.5 Mil, second year option of $9 Mil

    First of all, it's a given that money spendature is out of control, and small market teams can't possibly compete with this kind of spending going on -- there will be a strike in the near future, I can sense it.

    Second, why the hell would the Mariners want to sign one of the most temperamental outfielders currently in the game? Thank god it's just a one year contract, and god willing the second year option will not pan out. Guillen is awesome...against 7 or 8 specific teams....and then his numbers go down the toilet....In this league? I predict a below average BA for Guillen...in fact, I'm having trouble understanding why he's so much better of a choice than some of the guys on the Mariners Minor League teams? The M's signing Guillen to this deal is liken to the signings they made of Lawton and Everett last year, and look how they panned out.

    Another thing -- why the hell did they let Meche go? Once he learns how and when to throw that curve, he'll be unstoppable...getting tired of waiting, I suppose would be a good answer...but so what? He was still a decent #5 guy in the rotation, if not at least a good choice for long relief until he finally figured out what he needed to in order to dominate (and I think eventually he will).

    It just seems more and more common to see the M's management in general not really looking at the depth of the numbers a guy puts up, but more the popularity of the player and the potential they might have to bring fans and money back to the team. They don't care about winning games, they care about making money and keeping the fans happy, shutting them up. I'm frickin' tired of it, and this signing only highlights how real the problem is....they could have gone after some better options than guillen, but who else was fighting them for him? They take the easiest route possible that they assume will keep fans happy --

    -- Well here is one UNHAPPY FAN!
  • cjonesfan921
    UGH, next year
    • Jan 2005
    • 20081

    #2
    Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

    Wow, someone gave Guillen a 8th chance.

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    • Stoud
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 1259

      #3
      Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

      Originally posted by cjonesfan921
      Wow, someone gave Guillen a 8th chance.
      It's hardly "giving him a chance" when you pay someone THAT MUCH...they aren't planning to PLATOON the guy with someone else, although that is what will probably happen....that's why I'm upset. This is ridiculous.

      Waste of money, Waste of roster space, Waste of time.

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      • BatsareBugs
        LVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 12553

        #4
        Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

        I wish the Padres could've signed him to play LF, but with Bud Black here I don't think that would've happened anyway.

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        • Sandman42
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2004
          • 15186

          #5
          Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

          If Guillen ends up in the OF instead of DH I wouldn't want to run on them, with Ichiro and Guillen having 2 of the strongest arms in the league.
          Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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          • dieselboy
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            • Dec 2002
            • 18040

            #6
            Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

            With Ichiro moving to CF, having another corner OF isn't a bad idea.

            If he plays like he did in like 2003-2004, solid deal.

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            • WazzuRC
              Go Cougs!
              • Dec 2002
              • 5617

              #7
              Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

              Originally posted by dieselboy
              With Ichiro moving to CF, having another corner OF isn't a bad idea.

              If he plays like he did in like 2003-2004, solid deal.
              Agree 100%. Now sign Schmidt and get rid of Sexson!

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              • chippered
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 1528

                #8
                Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

                Originally posted by atomicdookie
                Agree 100%. Now sign Schmidt and get rid of Sexson!
                I read that Schmidt isnt interested in signing with Seattle if they are serious about trading Beltre or Sexson.
                GT = Chippered

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                • Sabercatsfan
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1443

                  #9
                  Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

                  It looks like all we got is the 2007 version of Carl Everett. I would have MUCH rather seen somebody like Luis Gonzalez, he might be old, but he hit .271 the past 2 years and wouldn't be a problem in the clubhouse.
                  Willie Mays Hayes: “Say hey! Willie Mays Hays here! Play like Mays, but I run like Hays!”


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                  • Coug00
                    LOB
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3476

                    #10
                    Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

                    I don't mind the deal very much. Its only 1 season with an option for two. Their plans were to sign a pitcher to big money and anything left over for a corner OF. I hope this pushes Ibanez to DH and they put Snelling in left. If they move Snelling to the bench I might lose it.

                    I'm also glad they didn't resign Meche. The guy has had 6 years to learn to get the curveball over. Hell, he can't even get his fastball over. I was so tired of watching him fall behind 2-0 in damn near every count. Good riddance, let the Royals deal with his fragile mental state.

                    I'm beginning to get worried that Bavasi has let every decent pitcher be signed by everyone else and we're going to be stuck giving Pinata Piniero arbitration. So the #5 rotation spot will be a battle between Baek, Woods, and Pinata. UGH!!!

                    Fire Bavasi, Hargrove, and Lincoln NOW!
                    Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                    • Sabercatsfan
                      MVP
                      • May 2003
                      • 1443

                      #11
                      Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

                      Originally posted by Coug00
                      I don't mind the deal very much. Its only 1 season with an option for two. Their plans were to sign a pitcher to big money and anything left over for a corner OF. I hope this pushes Ibanez to DH and they put Snelling in left. If they move Snelling to the bench I might lose it.

                      I'm also glad they didn't resign Meche. The guy has had 6 years to learn to get the curveball over. Hell, he can't even get his fastball over. I was so tired of watching him fall behind 2-0 in damn near every count. Good riddance, let the Royals deal with his fragile mental state.

                      I'm beginning to get worried that Bavasi has let every decent pitcher be signed by everyone else and we're going to be stuck giving Pinata Piniero arbitration. So the #5 rotation spot will be a battle between Baek, Woods, and Pinata. UGH!!!

                      Fire Bavasi, Hargrove, and Lincoln NOW!
                      Pinata Piniero, LOL, I love it.
                      Willie Mays Hayes: “Say hey! Willie Mays Hays here! Play like Mays, but I run like Hays!”


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                      • Stoud
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1259

                        #12
                        Re: Mariners sign Jose Guillen -- anyone else disappointed?

                        Originally posted by Coug00
                        I don't mind the deal very much. Its only 1 season with an option for two. Their plans were to sign a pitcher to big money and anything left over for a corner OF. I hope this pushes Ibanez to DH and they put Snelling in left. If they move Snelling to the bench I might lose it.

                        I'm also glad they didn't resign Meche. The guy has had 6 years to learn to get the curveball over. Hell, he can't even get his fastball over. I was so tired of watching him fall behind 2-0 in damn near every count. Good riddance, let the Royals deal with his fragile mental state.

                        I'm beginning to get worried that Bavasi has let every decent pitcher be signed by everyone else and we're going to be stuck giving Pinata Piniero arbitration. So the #5 rotation spot will be a battle between Baek, Woods, and Pinata. UGH!!!

                        Fire Bavasi, Hargrove, and Lincoln NOW!
                        Agreed.

                        While they were signing Guillen, everyone else was signing every decent starter in free agency....

                        I wouldn't mind Baek in the number 5 spot, but we would need at least two more starters to fill out the rotation, and how many decent ones are even left in free agency? Half a Dozen if you're being REALLY FREAKIN' POLITE.

                        Looks to me like the M's are screwed again, and I too want these idiots out of the M's organization. They don't care about what is best for the team...if they did they wouldn't make such HORRIBLE, GOD AWFUL, DISGUSTING, PATHETIC decisions!!

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