Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

[ehh]

And a good one.....


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etick...y?page=mcgwire


"I haven't even spoken to him since he retired," says Randy Robertson, a buddy from childhood and one his college roommates at Southern Cal. "I don't know who his best friend is now."


"I haven't spoken to him in a while," says Mark Altieri, the slugger's former spokesman.


"I haven't seen him in ages," says Tom Carroll, his high school baseball coach.


"He just wants to slink away," says Ken Brison, son of a former McGwire foundation board member.


"We never talk about politics or baseball," says U.S. Rep. John Campbell (R-CA 48th), his neighbor.

[Vince]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

if he's inducted, would he be the 1st person ever to decline induction into the HOF?

cause i don't see him ever wanting to actually go through a speech and having to think about what he might or might not have done.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

The thing is, football and baseball are such a double standard. Look at all the football players using that get caught, how many hall of famers were on them in both football and baseball.

McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds all saved baseball in the '90s, were they using steriods??? Probably but nobody has proved anything with BigMac and Sosa, I for one would vote them in, I think they belong there, how many other pitchers might have been on them in the past. Remember steriods don't have to make you big to have a positive effect on your body, it just gets you moving faster and have you muscles heal quicker.

I for one think that Canseco's numbers of how many guys were on them in the late 80's to 90's is about right. I don't see how the teams or media just slept on it or turned the other cheek so long that it was as widespread as it was. Baseball, the owners, the player association, the media, and the players that used should all be on trial, not make 4 guys (including Palmerio) take the fall for a whole organization who were praising and paying these guys huge sums of money.

[ehh]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

if he's inducted, would he be the 1st person ever to decline induction into the HOF?

cause i don't see him ever wanting to actually go through a speech and having to think about what he might or might not have done.

I honestly don't think he's going to get voted in.

[BGarrett7]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds all saved baseball in the '90s, were they using steriods??? Probably but nobody has proved anything with BigMac and Sosa, I for one would vote them in, I think they belong there, how many other pitchers might have been on them in the past. Remember steriods don't have to make you big to have a positive effect on your body, it just gets you moving faster and have you muscles heal quicker.

So, because everyone was doing it -- pitchers included -- it somehow justifies and legitimizes the bloated stats that were put up during the Steroid Era?

I don't care if it can be scientifically proven that every player in the Majors from 1988 through 2004 was using steroids, no one should be voted in based solely on a "well, it was a level playing field" argument.

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

He was, and probably still is my favorite baseball player of all time. It's a shame.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Where have you gone, Big Mac? (Article)

So, because everyone was doing it -- pitchers included -- it somehow justifies and legitimizes the bloated stats that were put up during the Steroid Era?

I don't care if it can be scientifically proven that every player in the Majors from 1988 through 2004 was using steroids, no one should be voted in based solely on a "well, it was a level playing field" argument.

I wasn't saying that it was right to take them and that they should be voted in on a basis of just because everyone was doing it, then it is ok. I am saying that if you are going to target 4 players just because of speculation then they better check on a lot more than just them. You might as well take everyone's numbers from that era and just throw the whole thing out then because if you are going on just speculation then everyone is guilty until proven innocent I guess.