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  • jpup
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 4571

    #1

    Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

    CINCINNATI -- The Reds avoided arbitration with ace starting pitcher Aaron Harang on Tuesday when they signed him to a four-year, $36.5 million contract through the 2010 season with a club option for 2011.

    Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky and Harang will be holding a 2 p.m. ET press conference at Great American Ball Park.

    Coming off his best season, Harang went 16-11 with a 3.76 ERA in 36 games, including 35 starts, in 2006.

    Part of a solid 1-2 rotation combo with Bronson Arroyo, the 28-year-old Harang offered the club consistency by pitching 234 1/3 innings and led the National League with 216 strikeouts and six complete games and was also tied for the league lead in victories.

    Before Harang, the last Reds pitcher to lead the NL in strikeouts was Jose Rijo in 1993. No Reds pitcher had led the league in complete games since Danny Jackson in 1988.

    Harang broke into the Majors in 2002 with the Athletics before he was traded by Oakland to the Reds on July 30, 2003, for outfielder Jose Guillen and pitchers Joe Valentine and Jeff Bruksch.

    In the exchange of arbitration figures last month, Harang was seeking $5.5 million for next season, while the Reds counter-offered $4.25 million. The right-hander avoided arbitration with the club last winter when he signed a one-year deal worth $2.35 million.
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  • nyisles16
    All Star
    • Apr 2003
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    #2
    Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

    good deal there.. .Harang, at least to me, flies under the radar in terms of being a good pitcher.. he did well last year & gives the Reds a solid 1/2 combo

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    • joshuar9476
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      • Feb 2006
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      #3
      Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

      oh yeah! harang, arroyo, bailey .. 1 - 2 - 3. now lets go get rid of dunn before the season starts.
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      • jpup
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        • Feb 2003
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        Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

        Originally posted by joshuar9476
        oh yeah! harang, arroyo, bailey .. 1 - 2 - 3. now lets go get rid of dunn before the season starts.
        Bailey is not going to be up before June probably and if you trade Dunn, you can expect the Reds to lose 100 games. The Reds would have zero offense without him.

        Why would you trade the best hitter the Reds have had in, at least, 15 years?
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        • joshuar9476
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          • Feb 2006
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          #5
          Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

          when i said harang, arroyo, bailey, i meant for the next few years. i still want bailey to start out the year in louisville. as for dunn, i agree he is our best power hitter, but he is still a cancer to this team. even marty has gotten on his case during the hot stove discussions. if dunn can come into spring training and work on his regiment, weight, lethargic play, and lower his strikeouts, then i will eat my words. but if he comes into this season with the same attitude as the end of last season, then we don't need him in our clubhouse.
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          • BatsareBugs
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            • Feb 2003
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            #6
            Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

            Damn good move by the Reds. Harang is a very good pitcher (I remember when someone laughed at me for picking him on my fantasy squad last season).

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            • IlliniM1ke
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              • Feb 2003
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              #7
              Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

              Great deal for the Reds, roughly 9 mil per year is a steal for Harang, when guys like Meche get 11 mil a year in FA locking up a guy who is considerably better for a lower price is a good move for Cincy, if Harang had another good year he would've gotten a big contract in free agency.
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              • CaliBuck
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                • Mar 2006
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                #8
                Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                This was such a great deal when you look at all the other deals being given to below average pitchers. Harang is pretty darn good and I feel got snubbed by not being considered for the Cy Young. This is the definition of a bargain and I gotta give Harang credit because I believe he gave the Reds a discount given the fact that they have been pretty loyal to him since trading for him from the A's.

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                • CaliBuck
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                  • Mar 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                  Originally posted by jpup
                  Bailey is not going to be up before June probably and if you trade Dunn, you can expect the Reds to lose 100 games. The Reds would have zero offense without him.

                  Why would you trade the best hitter the Reds have had in, at least, 15 years?
                  Best POWER hitter. Not best hitter. So many guys would be listed before Dunn if we're talking about hitters. The dude is Dave Kingman Part II.

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                  • jpup
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                    Originally posted by CaliBuck
                    Best POWER hitter. Not best hitter. So many guys would be listed before Dunn if we're talking about hitters. The dude is Dave Kingman Part II.
                    c'mon man. you have no idea. Do you want to go by what you think or the facts?

                    Career

                    Adam Dunn .245/.380/.513/.893
                    Dave Kingman .236/.302/.478/.780

                    Adam Dunn RC/27 6.64
                    Dave Kingman RC/27 4.82

                    Those are the facts. Adam Dunn is not comparable to Dave Kingman in any way other than batting average, which means absolutely nothing. In 6 years Adam Dunn has scored 100+ runs 2 times and had 99 last season. Dave Kingman never had more than 97 in 16 years. Kingman hit 40+ homers 1 time in his 16 years, Adam Dunn has hit 40+ three times in 6 years.

                    Dunn's OBP is .078 higher than Kingmans and his OPS is a staggering .113 higher.

                    If you want to compare Dunner to someone, Reggie Jackson would be a lot closer than Dave Kingman. Just because you heard it on TV or the internet doesn't mean it's true. Look at the numbers, they are black and white.
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                    • CaliBuck
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                      • Mar 2006
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                      Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                      Originally posted by jpup
                      c'mon man. you have no idea. Do you want to go by what you think or the facts?

                      Career

                      Adam Dunn .245/.380/.513/.893
                      Dave Kingman .236/.302/.478/.780

                      Adam Dunn RC/27 6.64
                      Dave Kingman RC/27 4.82

                      Those are the facts. Adam Dunn is not comparable to Dave Kingman in any way other than batting average, which means absolutely nothing. In 6 years Adam Dunn has scored 100+ runs 2 times and had 99 last season. Dave Kingman never had more than 97 in 16 years. Kingman hit 40+ homers 1 time in his 16 years, Adam Dunn has hit 40+ three times in 6 years.

                      Dunn's OBP is .078 higher than Kingmans and his OPS is a staggering .113 higher.

                      If you want to compare Dunner to someone, Reggie Jackson would be a lot closer than Dave Kingman. Just because you heard it on TV or the internet doesn't mean it's true. Look at the numbers, they are black and white.
                      That's all great and all but don't insult the Reds players of the past in saying that Dunn is the best hitter in the last 15 years because that is a freaking joke. If we're talking pure AVG numbers, I could name almost every guy on just last years roster that is a better hitter than Dunn.

                      Dunn can hit for power and is probably the best power hitter we've had in the last 15 years. Best hitter? Dude isn't even Top 100 in the last 15 years. Coudln't hit the broadside of a barn in most circumstances.

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                      • jpup
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                        Originally posted by CaliBuck
                        That's all great and all but don't insult the Reds players of the past in saying that Dunn is the best hitter in the last 15 years because that is a freaking joke. If we're talking pure AVG numbers, I could name almost every guy on just last years roster that is a better hitter than Dunn.

                        Dunn can hit for power and is probably the best power hitter we've had in the last 15 years. Best hitter? Dude isn't even Top 100 in the last 15 years. Coudln't hit the broadside of a barn in most circumstances.
                        you don't even understand what I just told you. He has a career OPS of .893. A career OBP of .380.

                        How many guys have the Reds had in the last 15 or 20 years with numbers like that? Look it up, I'll wait for you.
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                        • CaliBuck
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                          #13
                          Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                          Originally posted by jpup
                          you don't even understand what I just told you. He has a career OPS of .893. A career OBP of .380.

                          How many guys have the Reds had in the last 15 or 20 years with numbers like that? Look it up, I'll wait for you.
                          Yeah those numbers are based on his power and his ability to draw WALKS. Show me AVG. Walks do not involve hitting. You said best hitter and if you think Dunn is a good hitter than I really question what you are smoking these days. It must be soemthing good, give me a hit.

                          If I'm looking for a hit and run or a clutch single, I'm going to go with Juan Castro over the K machine and that isn't saying much about Dunn N' Gone.
                          Last edited by CaliBuck; 02-11-2007, 01:30 AM.

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                          • jpup
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                            #14
                            Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                            Originally posted by CaliBuck
                            Yeah those numbers are based on his power and his ability to draw WALKS. Walks do not involve hitting. You said best hitter and if you think Dunn is a good hitter than I really question what you are smoking these days. It must be soemthing good, give me a hit.
                            So drawing a walk has nothing to do with hitting? Getting on base has nothing to do with hitting? Being something more than a singles hitter has nothing to do with hitting?

                            So is batting average all that matters? How is something that counts a single the same as a double, a triple, and a home run, at all reliable?

                            Just go ahead and say it, don't confuse me with the facts, I have already made up my mind. Also, we don't have to resolve to personal attacks when you don't agree with something.
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                            • CaliBuck
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                              • Mar 2006
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                              #15
                              Re: Reds sign Aaron Harang to 4 year deal

                              Originally posted by jpup
                              So drawing a walk has nothing to do with hitting? Getting on base has nothing to do with hitting? Being something more than a singles hitter has nothing to do with hitting?

                              So is batting average all that matters? How is something that counts a single the same as a double, a triple, and a home run, at all reliable?

                              Just go ahead and say it, don't confuse me with the facts, I have already made up my mind. Also, we don't have to resolve to personal attacks when you don't agree with something.
                              yes, walking does have something to do with hitting but I think a bigger part of actual HITTING is putting wood to the ball and Dunn is not good at that. Please dude, I'm a huge Reds fan and I'm glad I'm not blinded by your Dunn obsession. Face it man, the guy hits for power and draws walks but his inability to take the bat off his shoulder also results in K's instead of those "valuable" walks. Please dont overvalue Dunn. He isn't a good hitter.

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