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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203
    #46
    Re: Odalis Perez throws fastball with no spin

    Originally posted by NEolithic
    and you are 100% wrong. It's the massive spin on a curveball that allows it to move. If you actually understood how aerodynamics worked you would know that The overhand spin on a curveball, in conjunction with the seams (those things that makes breaking pitches possible ) makes the air underneath the ball move past it faster. This is turn creats a low pressure zone under the ball, Air inherantly wants to move from high to low pressure. thusly, the now "high" pressure air above the ball wants to move to the now "low" pressure zone created by the overhand spin under the ball, however, the ball....is in the way, and therefor gets pushed downward by the air above the ball attempting to get beneath the ball.

    The exact opposite is true of a fastball. You put massive backspin on the ball to create a low pressure zone ABOVE the ball, the air beneath it wants to get above the ball, ( this also is the basis of lift on an airplane wing ) however, not enough lift is generated to actually make the ball "fly away", the ball does take a much more streamlined and straight flight to the plate.


    Breaking pitches are all a matter of direction of spin and variance of the seams through the air. (obviously other factor's come into play, velocity, density of the air. Any moisture from the skin put on the ball....etc etc.)
    Ok, so my explanation of why a breaking pitch breaks was wrong.

    But, a fastball still has more spin than a breaking pitch, which was the basis of my point.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • Neolithic
        Pro
        • Apr 2003
        • 699
        #47
        Re: Odalis Perez throws fastball with no spin

        Fair enough

        so we'll settle on like.....80ish % wrong...lol

        My apologies on the wording, I should probably turn off world news when I'm posting...(it tends to put me in angry places) anywho, yeah fastballs do in just about every case have more spin imparted on them than breaking pitches.


        bottomline though.....I never got to see the video....and for this...I'm sad.
        You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203
            #48
            Re: Odalis Perez throws fastball with no spin

            Originally posted by NEolithic
            Fair enough

            so we'll settle on like.....80ish % wrong...lol

            My apologies on the wording, I should probably turn off world news when I'm posting...(it tends to put me in angry places) anywho, yeah fastballs do in just about every case have more spin imparted on them than breaking pitches.


            bottomline though.....I never got to see the video....and for this...I'm sad.
            Oh, no apologies needed. I didn't take it the wrong way.

            You made an explanation on why a breaking pitch breaks. You had to get that detailed after I f'ed up the reasoning. We can't let the kids of America be wrongly informed.

            So, yea 80% wrong is fine by me That makes me a journey man in the majors.
            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • dalnet22
                Banned
                • Jul 2004
                • 770
                #49
                Re: Odalis Perez throws fastball with no spin

                Originally posted by Kredit
                I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he throws a normal fastball, too. Major Leaguers are not that dumb.
                Ok, but when hitters see that one pitch with no spin coming in at a decent hitting speed (90 isn't that fast), they will clobber it. And we still don't know if he throws a fastball with spin. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that.

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