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  • BaseballCtchr
    MVP
    • Nov 2003
    • 1306

    #1

    Hall or Not?

    Here we go fellas I just saw somewhere recently that Jeff Kent was a lock to go to Cooperstown. This caught me by suprise because I never felt he was HOF worthy. He does have 4 Silver Sluggers, 4 All-Star apperances, 1 MVP including finishing top 10 in 3 other MVP votes, 353 HRs, 1412 RBIs, .503 Slugg %, and 2240 hits. He did not really turn it on until he turned 29. His defense is suspect to add.

    Would you put Kent in the HOF?
  • Chip Douglass
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2005
    • 12256

    #2
    Re: Hall or Not?

    Originally posted by BaseballCtchr
    Here we go fellas I just saw somewhere recently that Jeff Kent was a lock to go to Cooperstown. This caught me by suprise because I never felt he was HOF worthy. He does have 4 Silver Sluggers, 4 All-Star apperances, 1 MVP including finishing top 10 in 3 other MVP votes, 353 HRs, 1412 RBIs, .503 Slugg %, and 2240 hits. He did not really turn it on until he turned 29. His defense is suspect to add.

    Would you put Kent in the HOF?
    Keep in mind Kent plays at second base, generally not a run-producing position and has posted impressive power numbers.

    I'd vote yes.
    I write things on the Internet.

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    • Psyblast
      2023 National Champions
      • Jun 2003
      • 42584

      #3
      Re: Hall or Not?

      Kent's one of the best offensive second baseman in history.

      Slam dunk HOFer in my eyes.

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      • bravosfan
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 5184

        #4
        Re: Hall or Not?

        I've never considered Kent to be an all-time great or anything, but when you see those numbers for a second-baseman, it'd be awfully tough to leave him out.

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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #5
          Re: Hall or Not?

          Yeah he will be a in the hall. I still don't know what I think about this position getting you in the hall. I think if you have great numbers it shouldn't matter what position you play. If he was a 3rd base or outfield would he even be consider?

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          • Chip Douglass
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2005
            • 12256

            #6
            Re: Hall or Not?

            Originally posted by Scottd
            Yeah he will be a in the hall. I still don't know what I think about this position getting you in the hall. I think if you have great numbers it shouldn't matter what position you play. If he was a 3rd base or outfield would he even be consider?
            Compare Kent to other players at his position. How many second basemen that you know average 35 HRs-100 RBIs in their prime?
            I write things on the Internet.

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #7
              Re: Hall or Not?

              Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
              Compare Kent to other players at his position. How many second basemen that you know average 35 HRs-100 RBIs in their prime?
              Yeah I hear you, but I don't think that is fair to someone that plays in the outfield and has the same numbers as Kent. I never got the argument that because he played 2nd base that made him better. Oh well. I think it should be base off numbers, for every position. One more thing most 2nd basemen are little guys, but Kent is not he is about 220 and 6'2''. That does have some merit to way he is putting up power numbers over his career.
              Last edited by Scottdau; 06-05-2007, 09:02 PM.

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              • TheLetterZ
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 6752

                #8
                Re: Hall or Not?

                Originally posted by Scottd
                Yeah I hear you, but I don't think that is fair to someone that plays in the outfield and has the same numbers as Kent. I never got the argument that because he played 2nd base that made him better. Oh well. I think it should be base off numbers, for every position.
                Using that logic, there would be like 5 non-outfielders/first-basemen in the Hall.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #9
                  Re: Hall or Not?

                  Originally posted by ZXLT
                  Using that logic, there would be like 5 non-outfielders/first-basemen in the Hall.
                  Yeah I know, but I still feel that you should be base off your numbers, not what position you played. Like hit 3000 in for sure. Hit 500 in for sure. Or win gold gloves. Or bat over 320 for you career.

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                  • sask3m
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2352

                    #10
                    Re: Hall or Not?

                    i would have said yes when he played for the giants but after signing with the dodger's, no way

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #11
                      Re: Hall or Not?

                      Hrm...before i'd say no but looking at those numbers he definitely has to go in.
                      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #12
                        Re: Hall or Not?

                        I don't know. I just feel this position thing is not a good base to use. but I hear you guys. The reason they used this is so the little guys could get into the hall. So o'course Kent is going to have huge numbers for a second basemen he is not a little guy. Oh well, I just see it different.

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                        • Chip Douglass
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 12256

                          #13
                          Re: Hall or Not?

                          Originally posted by Scottd
                          I don't know. I just feel this position thing is not a good base to use. but I hear you guys. The reason they used this is so the little guys could get into the hall. So o'course Kent is going to have huge numbers for a second basemen he is not a little guy. Oh well, I just see it different.
                          Or could it be that the Dodgers have had the Giants' number recently, and Kent is a huge reason for it?
                          I write things on the Internet.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #14
                            Re: Hall or Not?

                            Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
                            Or could it be that the Dodgers have had the Giants' number recently, and Kent is a huge reason for it?

                            Yeah OK!

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                            • Chip Douglass
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 12256

                              #15
                              Re: Hall or Not?

                              Originally posted by Scottd
                              Yeah OK!
                              LOL. I'm sure your completely objective on all things Jeff Kent.
                              I write things on the Internet.

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