only get a minor-league deal? This guy has a winning career record and was 10-12 last year with a 4.51 ERA for Arizona. Now, that's not setting the world on fire, but there are much less talented pitchers in the league than he that have long-term contracts for huge amounts of money. He's only 32 also. What am I missing here?
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he is a home run machine. Also, not many FA are getting nice contracts this year.Comment
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Times have changed. Most of the owners have ALOT of their money tied up in the stock market , since 9/11 the market has been depressed as Im sure you are aware. The money that was there 2 years ago isnt there now. If you look at all the unsigned Free Agents you could easily make up a team that could beat the Rays at least:
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Player Position Former Team
1. Alicea, Luis 2B KC --- --- ---
2. Arias, Alex 3B NYY --- --- ---
3. Bell, Jay 3B ARI --- --- -(signed w/Mets today)
4. Benes, Andy P STL --- --- Retired
5. Benjamin, Mike 3B PIT --- --- ---
6. Brocail, Doug P HOU --- --- ---
7. Clark, Tony 1B BOS --- --- ---
8. Cook, Dennis P ANA --- --- ---
9. Dunston, Shawon OF SF --- --- ---
10. Durbin, Chad P KC --- --- ---
11. Finley, Chuck P STL --- 12/12/02 ---
12. Fryman, Travis 3B CLE --- --- Retired
13. Gant, Ron OF SD --- --- ---
14. Garcia, Jesse 2B ATL --- --- ---
15. Henderson, Rickey OF BOS --- --- ---
16. Hollins, Dave 1B PHI --- --- ---
17. Justice, David OF OAK --- --- Retired
18. Knoblauch, Chuck OF KC --- --- ---
19. Lampkin, Tom C SD --- --- ---
20. Lankford, Ray OF SD --- --- ---
21. Lewis, Darren OF PIT --- --- Retired
22. Lofton, Kenny OF SF --- --- ---
23. Martinez, Dave OF ATL --- --- Retired
24. Morgan, Mike P ARI --- --- ---
25. Nickle, Doug P SD --- --- ---
26. Offerman, Jose 1B SEA --- --- ---
27. Perez, Eddie C CLE --- --- ---
28. Person, Robert P PHI --- --- ---
29. Raines, Tim OF FLA --- --- Retired
30. Rogers, Kenny P TEX --- --- ---
31. Saenz, Olmedo 1B OAK --- --- ---
32. Sanders, Reggie OF SF --- --- ---
33. Stottlemyre, Todd P ARI --- --- Retired
34. Surhoff, B.J. OF ATL --- --- ---
35. Velarde, Randy 2B OAK --- --- Retired
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Helling...
Times have changed. Most of the owners have ALOT of their money tied up in the stock market , since 9/11 the market has been depressed as Im sure you are aware. The money that was there 2 years ago isnt there now. If you look at all the unsigned Free Agents you could easily make up a team that could beat the Rays at least:
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Player Position Former Team
1. Alicea, Luis 2B KC --- --- ---
2. Arias, Alex 3B NYY --- --- ---
3. Bell, Jay 3B ARI --- --- -(signed w/Mets today)
4. Benes, Andy P STL --- --- Retired
5. Benjamin, Mike 3B PIT --- --- ---
6. Brocail, Doug P HOU --- --- ---
7. Clark, Tony 1B BOS --- --- ---
8. Cook, Dennis P ANA --- --- ---
9. Dunston, Shawon OF SF --- --- ---
10. Durbin, Chad P KC --- --- ---
11. Finley, Chuck P STL --- 12/12/02 ---
12. Fryman, Travis 3B CLE --- --- Retired
13. Gant, Ron OF SD --- --- ---
14. Garcia, Jesse 2B ATL --- --- ---
15. Henderson, Rickey OF BOS --- --- ---
16. Hollins, Dave 1B PHI --- --- ---
17. Justice, David OF OAK --- --- Retired
18. Knoblauch, Chuck OF KC --- --- ---
19. Lampkin, Tom C SD --- --- ---
20. Lankford, Ray OF SD --- --- ---
21. Lewis, Darren OF PIT --- --- Retired
22. Lofton, Kenny OF SF --- --- ---
23. Martinez, Dave OF ATL --- --- Retired
24. Morgan, Mike P ARI --- --- ---
25. Nickle, Doug P SD --- --- ---
26. Offerman, Jose 1B SEA --- --- ---
27. Perez, Eddie C CLE --- --- ---
28. Person, Robert P PHI --- --- ---
29. Raines, Tim OF FLA --- --- Retired
30. Rogers, Kenny P TEX --- --- ---
31. Saenz, Olmedo 1B OAK --- --- ---
32. Sanders, Reggie OF SF --- --- ---
33. Stottlemyre, Todd P ARI --- --- Retired
34. Surhoff, B.J. OF ATL --- --- ---
35. Velarde, Randy 2B OAK --- --- Retired
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
olmeado seanz got a minor league deal with the A'sComment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
olmeado seanz got a minor league deal with the A'sComment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
There have a been a lot of 1 player deals. Next year we're pretty much going to go through the same ordeals with the same players.Comment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
There have a been a lot of 1 player deals. Next year we're pretty much going to go through the same ordeals with the same players.Comment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
pudge is a great exampleComment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
pudge is a great exampleComment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
I don't understand it myself....Helling is a 200 inning guy, he has a had a winning record in 4 of his last 6 seasons as a full time starter. My Texas Rangers have only had 2 guys that figured out how to pitch in Arlington, TX...Kenny Rogers and Rick Helling...We wanted neither. Amazing.Comment
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Re: Real baseball question....How does Rick Hellin
I don't understand it myself....Helling is a 200 inning guy, he has a had a winning record in 4 of his last 6 seasons as a full time starter. My Texas Rangers have only had 2 guys that figured out how to pitch in Arlington, TX...Kenny Rogers and Rick Helling...We wanted neither. Amazing.Comment
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I don't understand it myself....Helling is a 200 inning guy, he has a had a winning record in 4 of his last 6 seasons as a full time starter. My Texas Rangers have only had 2 guys that figured out how to pitch in Arlington, TX...Kenny Rogers and Rick Helling...We wanted neither. Amazing.
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I agree. I was a huge fan of "Little Ricky Helling" when he was here in Texas. He does nothing but eat up innings and that could be valuable to a team that has a crappy bullpen. He does give up a lot of homers but it is ok considering that he usually gives up 3,4,5 runs an outing. I would love to see him back in a Rangers uni this spring.Comment
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I don't understand it myself....Helling is a 200 inning guy, he has a had a winning record in 4 of his last 6 seasons as a full time starter. My Texas Rangers have only had 2 guys that figured out how to pitch in Arlington, TX...Kenny Rogers and Rick Helling...We wanted neither. Amazing.
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I agree. I was a huge fan of "Little Ricky Helling" when he was here in Texas. He does nothing but eat up innings and that could be valuable to a team that has a crappy bullpen. He does give up a lot of homers but it is ok considering that he usually gives up 3,4,5 runs an outing. I would love to see him back in a Rangers uni this spring.Comment
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