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  • MagicBucsWsoxFan
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 4294

    #1

    Ozzie goes off, article says it all

    I agree with him totally.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2910088

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    The 2005 World Series championship the Chicago White Sox won is becoming a distant memory for manager Ozzie Guillen, whose frustration with a woeful start to the 2007 season is beginning to boil over.

    The White Sox have lost 18 of 23 and Guillen was highly agitated by his team's latest performance -- Tuesday's 7-5 loss at home to the Marlins. The manager questioned whether his players still believe in themselves.

    "It's a joke," he said. "Every day we see the same stuff, every day we see the same team. We have a couple of hopes here and there and get a little excited and the next day we go backward.

    "We have to apologize to the fans watching this thing because I'm tired of watching this day in and day out. ... Wow. You thought I was a good manager. Well, look at me now. I'm not that good. You're as good as your players are."

    The White Sox (29-38) are 10½ games behind AL Central co-leaders Cleveland and Detroit and only 2½ behind last-place Kansas City. In the wild-card standings, the White Sox are also 10½ out -- and one game behind Tampa Bay.

    ''I have faith in these guys, and 35,000 people in the ninth inning are rooting for us, but they go home disappointed. I don't think [the players] have faith in themselves. ... I hope they believe in themselves. If the talent wasn't there, I wouldn't say this. If the talent wasn't there, we'd go in a different direction," Guillen told reporters.

    ''I'm tired of being positive. They'll blame the coaching staff and the manager and [owner] Jerry Reinsdorf and [general manager] Kenny Williams, but blame the players, too. I'll take the blame because I run the club, but every move I've been making so far is the wrong one because [the players] are not supporting it.

    "You thought I was a good manager? Look at me now. You're only as good as your players."
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  • ToAsT7137
    Rookie
    • Jul 2003
    • 216

    #2
    Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

    Is it really necessary to throw your entire team under the bus like that to the media? I think he sounds like a fool.

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    • Blzer
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      • Mar 2004
      • 42523

      #3
      Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

      Originally posted by ToAsT7137
      Is it really necessary to throw your entire team under the bus like that to the media? I think he sounds like a fool.
      There are two ends to a spectrum; a manager shouldn't only be able to praise their players when he makes the correct coaching decisions.
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      • jim416
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 10606

        #4
        Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

        "We have to apologize to the fans watching this thing because I'm tired of watching this day in and day out. ... Wow. You thought I was a good manager. Well, look at me now. I'm not that good. You're as good as your players are."

        So every manager with a worse team than Ozzie should be out there denegrating his players?

        Ozzie needs a can of "shutup".

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        • MagicBucsWsoxFan
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 4294

          #5
          Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

          To have the kind of record we have with the lineup we have is absolutly unexcusable.
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          • Kodiak33
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1093

            #6
            Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

            Totally agree with him. Some people just hate Ozzie for being honest, and hate him otherwise.

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            • Graphik
              Pr*s*n*r#70460649
              • Oct 2002
              • 10582

              #7
              Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

              He's pretty much going all out to get his team out of a slump. What he's doing shouldn't be considered bad, he's desperate to get out of whatever slump the sox are on. If blasting them to the media will light a fire under them or make them even more distant towards Ozzie, then so be it. Right now, they need to do something. I applaud him more for actually speaking his mind instead of the typical "we need to do better" speech that's standard amongst managers and coaches. Point fingers, call out players or whatever, the fact of the matter is the sox are sinking and something drastic needs to be done.
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              • Stu
                All Star
                • Jun 2004
                • 7924

                #8
                Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

                Originally posted by MagicBucsWsoxFan
                To have the kind of record we have with the lineup we have is absolutly unexcusable.
                Huh? The White Sox are last in the AL in Runs, BA, OBP and SLG. I'm not an Ozzie Guillen fan by any stretch, but I agree with him here. His players have flat out stunk this year.
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                • MagicBucsWsoxFan
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 4294

                  #9
                  Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

                  Originally posted by camulos
                  Huh? The White Sox are last in the AL in Runs, BA, OBP and SLG. I'm not an Ozzie Guillen fan by any stretch, but I agree with him here. His players have flat out stunk this year.
                  Oh I agree totally. Im blaming the players because theres too much talent to not be at least in the thick of things.
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                  • Dice
                    Sitting by the door
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6627

                    #10
                    Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

                    Originally posted by jim416
                    "We have to apologize to the fans watching this thing because I'm tired of watching this day in and day out. ... Wow. You thought I was a good manager. Well, look at me now. I'm not that good. You're as good as your players are."

                    So every manager with a worse team than Ozzie should be out there denegrating his players?

                    Ozzie needs a can of "shutup".
                    Guys who just simply hate Ozzie will always find something wrong in what he has to say. I understand that you hate him BUT please give him a little respect when he's telling the truth. Should Ozzie throw his players under the bus because they are the worst hitting team in baseball and they have a crappy bullpen? HELL YEAH! The core of the 2005 World Series team is still there and they haven't produced **** this season. Roll their asses under the bus because right now they are not earning their paychecks for this season.

                    Ozzie will say some outlandish **** BUT he's on point this time. Ozzie will protect his players BUT there comes a point where a man has to stand up for himself when your team isn't backing you up. And it isn't like Ozzie is deflecting the blame. He's accepting his part of this mess on the south side of Chicago.
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                    • kingdevin
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1110

                      #11
                      Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

                      Originally posted by ToAsT7137
                      Is it really necessary to throw your entire team under the bus like that to the media? I think he sounds like a fool.
                      ...then what should he say?

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                      • ToAsT7137
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 216

                        #12
                        Re: Ozzie goes off, article says it all

                        Originally posted by kingdevin
                        ...then what should he say?
                        Does he have to say anything? Keeping his mouth shut would be better then basically telling the media that your entire team sucks. He might be speaking the truth, but since when in any sport do you see a coach/manager hang their entire team out to dry like that? Stuff like that should be said in the clubhouse... not to the media. Just my two cents.

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