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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #1

    This is what Santana can command on the open market

    I mentioned this in the Terry Ryan thread but I think it deserves mention here as it's potentially huge especially if it happens.

    According to some analysts Johan Santana can command a 5 yr/175 mil contract on the open market. That was no typo.

    I'm of two minds about it; I mean he's clearly the best starting pitcher in MLB right now so he deserves whatever he can get but then it could be an albatross like A-Rod's contract has been. You really have to weigh money vs. performance. it's a tough choice to have to make as a GM.

    Then there's the potentially catastrophic situation. Pitchers can just lose it at any time and so Santana could end up being the modern equivalent to Andy Messersmith.

    Anyways, comments?
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  • RedRooster
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 346

    #2
    Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

    What analysts predict that kind of salary? That's just absurd. Outrageous.
    The A-Rod contract will be the most ridiculous for a long time, I can't see Santana or Pujols on the open market getting anything more, for the exact reasons you mentioned.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

      Originally posted by RedRooster
      What analysts predict that kind of salary?
      I only caught a part of the report but it was from a finance/business expert that comes on the FAN in Toronto. I believe the analysts are sports business trends folks.

      I wouldn't be surprised if his contract gets close to that tho.
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      • RedRooster
        Rookie
        • Mar 2003
        • 346

        #4
        Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

        I pray to someone that they can break that union and get some sort of cap system in there. That's just nuts!

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #5
          Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

          IMO it's absurd to compare the money he should make to an everyday player.

          That's just me, though.
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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #6
            Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

            How much time did he spend "analyzing" what he pulled out of his ***?
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            • ComfortablyLomb
              MVP
              • Sep 2003
              • 3548

              #7
              Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

              I could see the Red Sox offering him $125 million over 5 years. I think they could actually go higher, maybe $30 million a year for five years. They were willing to essentially invest $100+ million in Matsuzaka and clearly have the revenue stream so why not? I could see the Yankees wanting to give him even more than that considering the new ballpark and their desperate need for pitching even with Chamberlin and Hughes.

              Edit - Just a reminder, Barry Zito managed to find a team willing to give him $126 million over seven years. Santana will be a rich man if he hits the open market.

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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #8
                Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                Originally posted by ComfortablyLomb
                Edit - Just a reminder, Barry Zito managed to find a team willing to give him $126 million over seven years. Santana will be a rich man if he hits the open market.
                And a superior pitcher in Zambrano got $90 million over 5, roughly the same per year, for what it's worth.
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                • ComfortablyLomb
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3548

                  #9
                  Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                  Originally posted by snepp
                  And a superior pitcher in Zambrano got $90 million over 5, roughly the same per year, for what it's worth.
                  That was an extension though, not a free agent contract.

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                  • Beantown
                    #DoYourJob
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 31523

                    #10
                    Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                    With the Red Sox and Yankees out there and needing pitching, Santana can become a free agent and demand whatever he wants and he will probably get it.

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                    • ComfortablyLomb
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3548

                      #11
                      Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                      Originally posted by Longhorn
                      With the Red Sox and Yankees out there and needing pitching, Santana can become a free agent and demand whatever he wants and he will probably get it.
                      I agree. So long as nothing funny shows up during his physical you're talking about a guy who will be 29 and by far the best pitcher in the league. The Sox have certainly shown they'll pony up for a guy like that and the Yanks will too. Maybe some other insane team will come out and make an even crazier bid.

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                      • oakfan162
                        Get Ducked Up!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 4724

                        #12
                        Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                        IDK. Maybe its because I'm an A's fan, but I have a hard time giving large amounts of money to a guy that helps you every fifth day. At least a guy like Arod can help you every game. And I think its been proven that young, cheap pitching is out there. Hell look at the Twins themselves. Lariano is a stud (when he comes back) that is probably making close to the league minimum.
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                        • ComfortablyLomb
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3548

                          #13
                          Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                          Originally posted by oakfan162
                          IDK. Maybe its because I'm an A's fan, but I have a hard time giving large amounts of money to a guy that helps you every fifth day. At least a guy like Arod can help you every game. And I think its been proven that young, cheap pitching is out there. Hell look at the Twins themselves. Lariano is a stud (when he comes back) that is probably making close to the league minimum.
                          Considering the A's were one of the best teams in baseball for a good stretch this decade because of their pitching, well that seems like an odd statement to me.

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                          • oakfan162
                            Get Ducked Up!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 4724

                            #14
                            Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                            Originally posted by ComfortablyLomb
                            Considering the A's were one of the best teams in baseball for a good stretch this decade because of their pitching, well that seems like an odd statement to me.
                            My point was that we never broke the bank for a pitcher, we just filled in with young cheap pitching.
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                            • BatsareBugs
                              LVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12553

                              #15
                              Re: This is what Santana can command on the open market

                              Jake Peavy's gotta be licking his chops when he's a free agent.

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