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  • wang_chi7
    Rookie
    • Sep 2004
    • 217

    #1

    An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3142555

    Players no longer can have in their contract a bonus clause for winning the Cy Young, MVP, etc. and be eligeable for said awards.
  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

    So I guess every major star in MLB right now can't win awards as most of the guys who are locked up already have those clauses in their contracts
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    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #3
      Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

      Originally posted by SPTO
      So I guess every major star in MLB right now can't win awards as most of the guys who are locked up already have those clauses in their contracts
      Doesn't start until 2013.
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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #4
        Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

        Originally posted by SPTO
        So I guess every major star in MLB right now can't win awards as most of the guys who are locked up already have those clauses in their contracts
        Ha, nice one.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

          Originally posted by camulos
          Doesn't start until 2013.
          Nice, the one time I don't skim over the link is when I make a joke.

          meh
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          • ryanm1058123
            Banned
            • Jan 2004
            • 3628

            #6
            Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

            Thanks Curt Schilling.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #7
              Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

              To be serious for a moment I'm not a fan of this vote.

              If a team is willing to give a player a monetary bonus for their performance then both that player and team should have the right to do so.

              I don't see how this should be the decision of the writers. To me it's disgusting that they think they should have the power to influence clauses.


              More reason to just shake my head at these voters. They don't get anything right, it seems.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #8
                Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                The BBWAA is quickly becoming a gigantic joke.
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                • bergie56
                  T*rg*t F**ld
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3984

                  #9
                  Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                  Originally posted by ryanm1058123
                  Thanks Curt Schilling.
                  Please explain this one to me.

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                  • Stu
                    All Star
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 7924

                    #10
                    Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                    Originally posted by bergie56
                    Please explain this one to me.
                    Curt Schilling has a $1 million bonus in his current deal if he gets just 1 3rd place vote or better. He also jokingly talked about paying off a writer to give him a 3rd place vote.

                    I don't have a problem with this decision by the BBWAA. Bonuses based on their votes could potentially call their credibility into question (i know, they dont have much to begin with).
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                    • Lintyfresh85
                      Where have I been?
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 17492

                      #11
                      Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                      I think its a good idea, these guys should be motivated to play well because they love the sport, not to get a bonus for getting some votes.
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                      Originally posted by trobinson97
                      Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #12
                        Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                        Originally posted by camulos

                        I don't have a problem with this decision by the BBWAA. Bonuses based on their votes could potentially call their credibility into question (i know, they dont have much to begin with).
                        Yea, I can see that. I won't argue that there is always the potential for someone to say that a vote was rigged.

                        But it's not like Schilling got a vote. If he got a vote then I could see a reason for this switch.

                        There hasn't been one instance in recent memory which a player won a major award (Gold Gloves are not a major award in my opinion) and didn't really deserve it.

                        If anything, what the writer's should have done is ask the Union to setup a plan so that player's couldn't receive monetary value for getting a vote. They could have argued that one writer could be swayed into voting for a player because of said clause. But it's highly unlikely that an entire board of writers would be bought out to vote for a winner.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • J0nnD0ugh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 16602

                          #13
                          Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                          The arrogance of baseball writers continues to disgust me. What buisness is it of theirs people want to pay bonuses, receive bonuses if they aren't shelling out the dough?
                          Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                          I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                          -August 17, 1960
                          Thanks, dookies!

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                          • snepp
                            We'll waste him too.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 10007

                            #14
                            Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                            Here's another BBWAA head scratcher.



                            Let it be known for the record that I think Jon Heyman is a complete douche, every time I read something of his I want to gouge out my eyeballs.
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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #15
                              Re: An End to Bonus Clauses for Awards

                              Originally posted by snepp
                              Here's another BBWAA head scratcher.



                              Let it be known for the record that I think Jon Heyman is a complete douche, every time I read something of his I want to gouge out my eyeballs.
                              The BBWAA is becoming a sort of frat or something. It's about getting your friends in and ignoring what really matters when it comes down to voting.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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